[Tlhingan-hol] is there a word for "darth" ?

[HoD qunnoQ]

now that i think of it,maybe the most correct way to say it would be
"veyDIr Hurgh" ; would i be right to think so ?

On Sun, Sep 20, 2015 at 8:30 PM, lojmIt tI'wI' nuv <
lojmitti7wi7nuv at gmail.com> wrote:

> The short version of the answer:
>
> There is no known Klingon "word" for "Darth".
>
> The explanation, for anyone interested:
>
> First of all, words have meaning, and what, exactly, does "Darth" mean? Is
> it his first name? Is it his rank? Is it his title?
>
> So far as I know, there's only been one Darth, and I've never heard him
> referred to as either "Darth" or "Vader". Never anything like, "So, Darth,
> how's it going?" Never anything like, "Mr. Vader gave you an order!" Every
> reference to him that I can recall has been the naming pair "Darth Vader".
> If not for the pause, it might as well be one word: "Darthvader". -- Hmm.
> Maybe I've heard "Vader" alone, but I don't remember if that was in a
> movie, or just among people talking about the movies.
>
> Meanwhile, "Darth" is really hard to say in Klingon. The consonants at the
> end are just all wrong for the language. Attempts to transliterate might
> come out as {Dargh} or {Datlh} or {Dartlhe'} or {DarSe'} or {Darte'}.
> Unfortunately, my own guess as to how a Klingon ear might hear it favors
> {Dargh}, which is the Klingon word for "tea", which is a drink that doesn't
> get a lot of respect among Klingons, with an emotional connotation quite
> unlike the dark, fearful effect that "Darth" is clearly intended to convey.
>
> So, if "Darth" is a word and it has a meaning, we need to know what that
> meaning is before we attempt to find the closest Klingon word to that
> meaning. If it is more simply a proper noun with a sound, but no meaning,
> then we need to arbitrarily transliterate that sound, fixing the broken
> consonant cluster at the end, since the only consonant "r-something"
> cluster that can end a syllable in Klingon is {-rgh}, and there is no "th"
> sound in Klingon. We might be tempted to consider {tlh} the equivalent to
> "th" but it is at least as far from "th" as is {S} or {t}. Likely, {S} is
> the closest sound to "th".
>
> "Vader" is easier. It would be {veyDIr} or maybe {veyDer}. Again, this is
> transliteration, not translation, and human pronunciation is not consistent
> enough to be other than arbitrary in choosing one most accurate
> transliteration.
>
> Sent from my iPad
> lojmIt tI'wI' nuv
>
> > On Sep 20, 2015, at 12:15 PM, HoD qunnoQ <mihkoun at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > nuqneH
> >
> > i would like to ask if someone knows how to say in Klingon the word
> "darth" ; "darth" as in "darth vader".
> > i am pretty sure that if Klingons existed within the star wars mythos,
> they would make some of the best Sith lords ever.
> >
> > Qapla'!
> >
> >
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