[Tlhingan-hol] Piraha

[qunnoQ HoD]

> You may notice that even in English such sentences can get confusing and
rambling.
yes indeed ; I find the ability to expand a sentence indefinitely,totally
unnecessary. although all earth languages (as described in the documentary)
may have this attribute (I can't remember the exact term), I think that it
is confusing for someone to hear a very very loooong sentence.

> Any time you find yourself unable to figure out how to include some
clause in a Klingon sentence, you are probably better off breaking the idea
into two sentences.
I like this so much,that I'm going to add it to a list I recently created ;
I named it "tlhIngan Hol pearls" and I write there all the good
suggestions/ideas/clarifications I read here. thank you !

> English run-on sentences
what is a run-on sentence ?

> There's a chance they might not get very far before the sentence would be
ended for them (if you know what I mean).
that is the case indeed.. even I who am not a Klingon,loose my patience
when someone talks in a single sentence without stopping. it drives me
crazy.

qunnoQ

On Sat, Oct 31, 2015 at 9:02 PM, David Holt <kenjutsuka at live.com> wrote:

> You may notice that even in English such sentences can get confusing and
> rambling.  In both English and Klingon it is much clearer to use short
> direct sentences and just use many of them.  However, in English very short
> sentences sound abrupt and dull.  In English we often try to go for a more
> medium length with closely related concepts together in one sentence, but
> breaking things into a separate sentence as they get further from the point
> of that sentence.  Some people may even think less of the intelligence of a
> person who uses only short sentences.  However, Klingons are, by
> nature, more direct and they prefer short clear sentences.  Any time you
> find yourself unable to figure out how to include some clause in a Klingon
> sentence, you are probably better off breaking the idea into two sentences.
>
>
>
> That being said, many of the same tools that exist for English run-on
> sentences also exist to create Klingon run-on sentences.  First and
> foremost being the sentence conjunctions ('ej, 'ach, pagh, qoj), but also
> everything in section 6.2 of TKD.  To answer your question directly, there
> is no actual limit to Klingon sentence length and someone could expand a
> sentence indefinitely if they so chose.  However, they would probably
> sacrifice a lot of clarity and any Klingons listening to them would
> probably quickly come to suspect that the person was trying to hide
> something from them.  There's a chance they might not get very far before
> the sentence would be ended for them (if you know what I mean).
>
>
> janSIy
>
>
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> *From:* qunnoQ HoD <mihkoun at gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Saturday, October 31, 2015 1:40 PM
> *To:* tlhIngan Hol mailing list
> *Subject:* [Tlhingan-hol] Piraha
>
> it so happened,that earlier today i saw part of a documentary concerning
> the evolution of terran languages. in this documentary,a universal property
> of EVERY earth language was described (the linguistic term currently eludes
> me). This attribute is the ability to expand the length of a sentence -in
> theory- indefinitely..
>
> example :
>
> ''..the pink targh with red dots we used to have grew very noisy,so my
> mother cooked it and after eating it,I took my bird of a prey for ride,to
> test its recently installed warp core,which was very costly to acquire,but
> the interstellar patrol arrested me just as i was about to hit warp factor
> 9,let alone the fact that they scratched its hand-made klingon emblems etc
> etc.."
>
> the only terran language (according to the documentary) which doesn't have
> the aforementioned attribute is the language of a secluded tribe called
> "the Piraha" ; the same language has also the characteristic that it
> doesn't have tenses. Everything is described in the present tense.
>
> So, I would like to ask.. Does Klingon have "a maximum sentence length" ?
> Or theoretically someone would be able to "expand" a sentence indefinitely
> ? Is there a rule in canon,which prohibits a sentence to grow beyond a
> certain length ?
>
> qunnoQ
>
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