[Tlhingan-hol] Outdated vocabulary/grammar

qunnoQ HoD mihkoun at gmail.com
Fri Oct 30 09:02:22 PDT 2015


> what is printed in the first edition of TKD

just to be 100 % certain.. there is only one version of TKD,right ? the one
i have has 191 pages. there hasn't been any other edition,right ?

On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 5:39 PM, Rohan Fenwick <qeslagh at hotmail.com> wrote:

> ghItlhpu' loghaD, jatlh:
> > I believe "outdated vocabulary" refers to instances where we have
> > made up new constructions to express things that we did not have
> > vocabulary for previously. > For example, Rohan recently mentioned that
> thanks to the addition of
> > canonical words for "gold" and "lead", he could update his translation
> > of "The Rime of the Ancient Mariner", which he had previously called
> > {baS 'ugh} ("heavy metal") and {baS SuD} ("yellow/green/blue metal")
> > and not been too pleased with it.
>
>
> FWIW I'll throw my opinion in behind SuStel and loghaD that yes, I think
> this is what you'll be thinking of, qunnoQ. What we call gold can be
> *described* as {baS SuD} in Klingon, but it's somewhat vague and clumsy
> (brass is also yellow, but has very different connotations) and to get rid
> of vagueness you need to be more clumsy ({waghbogh 'ej SuDbogh baS}?). The
> fact that we now have {qol'om} to refer specifically to gold means that
> there's no longer a need for the circumlocution.
>
>
> Let me reassure you that Klingon grammar and vocabulary, in and of
> themselves, don't become obsolete - in general, what is printed in the
> first edition of TKD is still considered just as valid Klingon as an email
> Marc sent to one of us last week. It may be clarified, updated, or
> explained in the meantime, but it's never discarded outright. What changes
> is just the way each individual might put together our ideas with the
> building blocks given to us in canon. And since new words are being
> revealed all the time, the ways we work out to express things might change
> too - which is a fun experience.
>
>
> QeS 'utlh
>
>
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