[Tlhingan-hol] Things missing

[Will Martin]

If we are still doing this when Marc Orkand dies, or Lawrence Schoen, for that matter, since he’s apparently the one that got us the free license from Paramount to play with the language and publish stuff without getting sued, then we’ll be in a new situation and we’ll have to creatively deal with it. Until then, Marc’s our man and we can’t take over his role as source for new vocabulary.

If we try, we’ll probably lose our free license from Paramount, and then we’ll have their lawyers to deal with.

There have been attempts at revolution to rip control of the vocabulary from Okrand and claim it for our own since qep’a’ wa’DIch. It’s never worked, and I don’t see it working any time soon. Patience works, and we get to play with a nice language with some limits we creatively wrestle with.

Yes, we need a single, official New Words List that is well maintained by someone this group trusts to maintain it well without corrupting it with personal style, preferably with citations of sources for each entry. No, we don’t need the ability to make up our own words independent of Marc Okrand.

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lojmIt tI'wI'nuv



> On Oct 29, 2015, at 2:16 AM, Tim Stoffel <tim at lionlamb.us> wrote:
> 
> Considering what the Klingon language community has accomplished over
> the years, it would be a shame to think that the end of Marc Okrand
> (which I hope is no time soon!) could be the end of the Klingon
> language.
> 
> We need a mechanism to keep the language alive. The Na'vi community has
> a 'Lexical Expansion Project' that works with Paul Frommer to develop
> new vocabulary, and occasionally, work through grammar issues. That
> committee, which is formed with a charter, would also become the new
> vocabulary approval mechanism, should anything ever happen to Dr.
> Frommer. So, as long as there is enough interest to leep the Lexical
> Expansion Project going, the Na'vi language has a future.
> 
> I know that among ourselves, there is a complete dictionary/lexicon. We
> need to develop and maintain such a dictionary, for use within the
> community, to help ensure a consistency and continuity in the language,
> and to serve as a semi-official 'canon' of the language.
> 
> There are several other popular conlangs (Dothraki, Valyrian to name
> two) that could stand to benefit from such a mechanism.
> 
> Tim Stoffel
> 
> --
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Michael Roney, Jr." <nahqun at gmail.com>
> 
> 
> On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 5:17 PM, Lieven <levinius at gmx.de> wrote:
>> 
>> Am 27.10.2015 um 21:45 schrieb Michael Roney, Jr.:
>> 
>>> At the moment I'd be happy with everything we already have being
>>> organized into one volume.
>> 
>> 
>> This is the exact same problem the klingon language community has been
> having for decades now. We're stuck with the copyright issue, and the
> owner simply doesn't care. There's nothing we can really do, unless we
> can afford to pay for any kind of license. The KLI is the only one who
> is somehow allowed to publish scholary works, but I doubt we can make a
> new edition of the entire TKD. :-(
>> 
> 
> mu'ghomvam vIqonlI'.
> 670 tenwalmey vIghaj.
> ghItlhwIj lo'laHbe' Se'vIr malja' 'e' vISov.
> 'ach jInmol vItIv.
> 
> 
> ~naHQun
> 
> --
> ~Michael Roney, Jr.
> Freelance Translator
> 
> 
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