[Tlhingan-hol] Captain Qov versus Qov's captain

[André Müller]

Yes to both, kechpaja,
It would have to be {Qov ghaHbogh HoD'e'} 'the captain who is Qov'.
Alternatively you could say: {Qov'e' ghaHbogh HoD} 'Qov, who is the
captain'. I think there are some canonical examples with the {-'e'}
missing. Maybe due to mistakes.

{Qov HoDDaj} as used by Anthony, is not just non-Okrandian, but also
missleading and not clear. It could only be interpreted as "his captain
Qov". The captain of someone or something, and the captain's name is Qov.

- André

2015-10-15 18:44 GMT+02:00 <kechpaja at comcast.net>:

>
> > {Qov 'oHbogh HoD} would mean "the captain, who is Qov"
>
> Sorry to nitpick, but shouldn't that be {Qov ghaHbogh HoD}, since the
> captain is presumably a being capable of using language?
>
> Also, tangentially: would you need {'e'} when one of the pronouns is used
> verbally in a relative clause like that? "The captain is Qov" would
> traditionally be {Qov ghaH HoD'e'}, if I'm not mistaken.
>
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