[Tlhingan-hol] Noun sequences

[Steven Boozer]

I haven’t found any examples of “A son/daughter of B, son/daughter of C”, but I did find this explanation by Okrand which may be useful:

(st.k 9/1997):  If you want to be even more formal, the name of the father may be used as well... "Kahlor, son of Kahlin, of the House of Molor" is "Kahlor, son of Kahlin, House of Molor" {qeylor qeylIn puqloD molor tuq}.

Yet another possibility – and it’s only a possibility, as we’ve never seen any examples of this extended type of name – is to use {puqnI'loD/puqnI’be’} “grandson/granddaughter”.  E.g.

    ? A B puqloD, C puqnI’loD              A son of B, grandson of C (?)

The “A son of B of the House of C” seems to be the usual pattern for extended names.  Perhaps Klingons view one’s father and House (or “tribe”) as much more important than one’s grandfather {vavnI’} (which has never been used by Okrand in a Klingon sentence AFAIK).

--
Voragh
Ca'Non Master of the Klingons


From: Robyn Stewart [mailto:robyn at flyingstart.ca]
Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2015 11:16 AM

We know {Bob, John puqloD} works.
In English “Bob, son of John, son of Fred...” may work just because each phrase sets up the new name at the end, to be in apposition with the next “son of...” phrase. Perhaps Voragh the canon master will spot this and enlighten us about whether the Klingon grammar of extended genealogy has ever been used in an episode or paq’batlh.  To make it clear, I might say Bob, John puqloD, Fred puqnI’loD je, but that’s not extensible through more generations.

From: Anthony Appleyard [mailto:a.appleyard at btinternet.com]
Sent: October 11, 2015 6:39
To: tlhingan-hol at kli.org<mailto:tlhingan-hol at kli.org>
Subject: [Tlhingan-hol] Noun sequences

If any sequence of nouns "A B" means "B of A", how to say e.g. "A son of B son of C"? I have been using "A B puqloD C puqloD". Or does that always mean "son of C of son of B of A"? Or what?
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