[Tlhingan-hol] Canon: Associate Producer

HoD qunnoQ mihkoun at gmail.com
Sat Oct 3 12:23:13 PDT 2015


ok,now that i am thinking on the subject,more questions arise..

is there a rule for how many syllables is the allowed maximum,for a single
word ? for instance,can a single word be composed of 6 syllables ?

qunnoQ

On Sat, Oct 3, 2015 at 9:37 PM, HoD qunnoQ <mihkoun at gmail.com> wrote:

> thank you ! everything is much clearer now !
>
> On Sat, Oct 3, 2015 at 6:59 PM, lojmIt tI'wI' nuv 'utlh <
> lojmitti7wi7nuv at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Rule #1: All Klingon syllables begin with a consonant (the glottal stop
>> is a consonant) followed by a vowel — with the one exception being some
>> instances of the noun suffix {-oy}.
>>
>> Rule #2: Some syllables end with that vowel, though most end with a
>> single consonant following the vowel.
>>
>> Rule #3: The only consonant clusters allowed at the end of a syllable are
>> {-rgh}, {-y’} and {-w’}.
>>
>> Maybe I’ve forgotten other consonant clusters, but I think that’s it.
>>
>> On Oct 3, 2015, at 11:37 AM, HoD qunnoQ <mihkoun at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> a fellow member of the list,pointed out earlier that a klingon word
>> cannot end with "nD". could someone point out what other word endings are
>> inappropriate/nonexistent in klingon ?
>>
>> On Sat, Oct 3, 2015 at 4:29 PM, lojmIt tI'wI' nuv <
>> lojmitti7wi7nuv at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> As Okrand explained, English has no soft onset for vowel-first
>>> syllables, so, unless you speak Hawaiian like a native, you don't know what
>>> soft onset sounds like or feels like because you've never done it or heard
>>> it during your language-formative years. It's like trying to explain "L"s
>>> and "R"s to someone who has exclusively spoken languages that lack them, or
>>> like explaining the difference between "pin" and "pen" to someone who
>>> speaks a dialect that pronounces them exactly alike. The difference is
>>> smaller to his ear than the difference between two different people saying
>>> "pen", so he can't hear which of the two words anyone is saying.
>>>
>>> English starts vowel-first syllables with a glottal stop. Deal with it.
>>>
>>> My wife pronounces "where" and "wear" exactly alike and thinks my
>>> pronunciation of "where" is sufficiently alien to her to be no end of
>>> amusement. She pronounces "why" like the letter "Y". It leaves me wondering
>>> why she doesn't pronounce "who" as "woo". When I point that out, she
>>> becomes puzzled. She never thought about that until I pointed it out, then
>>> she just declares "That's just how it is," and avoids thinking about it
>>> further, since she prefers to think that her pronunciation is generally
>>> better than mine, when there is a difference.
>>>
>>> She also thinks that if a man says something in a forest and there is no
>>> woman there to hear him, yes, he is still wrong.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>> lojmIt tI'wI' nuv
>>>
>>> > On Oct 3, 2015, at 4:25 AM, Lieven <levinius at gmx.de> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > I wrote:
>>> >> Because in Klingon, no word starts with a vowel. Even from a
>>> linguistic
>>> >> view, in most languages, words woth vowels start with a glottal stop.
>>> >> Try saying "I ate eight egg" without the stop. I will sound like
>>> >> "hi-yate-tate-hags".
>>> >
>>> >> Am 22.09.2015 um 09:32 schrieb Anthony Appleyard:
>>> >> In my pronunciation of English (I am in England), the separator in
>>> "I-ate-eight-eggs" is a slight hesitation, and not a true glottal stop with
>>> closure of the glottis.
>>> >
>>> > This may be correct from a linguistic point of view, but my
>>> explanation is the very closest approachment I can get to explain this to a
>>> non-linguist, which are most of the Klingon students.
>>> >
>>> > It's also possible that my example does not work exactly in english as
>>> it does in German though.
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > Lieven L. Litaer
>>> > aka Quvar valer 'utlh
>>> > Grammarian of the KLI
>>> > http://www.facebook.com/Klingonteacher
>>> > http://www.klingonwiki.net/En/Apostrophe
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