[Tlhingan-hol] Canon: Associate Producer

[HoD qunnoQ]

thank you ! everything is much clearer now !

On Sat, Oct 3, 2015 at 6:59 PM, lojmIt tI'wI' nuv 'utlh <
lojmitti7wi7nuv at gmail.com> wrote:

> Rule #1: All Klingon syllables begin with a consonant (the glottal stop is
> a consonant) followed by a vowel — with the one exception being some
> instances of the noun suffix {-oy}.
>
> Rule #2: Some syllables end with that vowel, though most end with a single
> consonant following the vowel.
>
> Rule #3: The only consonant clusters allowed at the end of a syllable are
> {-rgh}, {-y’} and {-w’}.
>
> Maybe I’ve forgotten other consonant clusters, but I think that’s it.
>
> On Oct 3, 2015, at 11:37 AM, HoD qunnoQ <mihkoun at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> a fellow member of the list,pointed out earlier that a klingon word cannot
> end with "nD". could someone point out what other word endings are
> inappropriate/nonexistent in klingon ?
>
> On Sat, Oct 3, 2015 at 4:29 PM, lojmIt tI'wI' nuv <
> lojmitti7wi7nuv at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> As Okrand explained, English has no soft onset for vowel-first syllables,
>> so, unless you speak Hawaiian like a native, you don't know what soft onset
>> sounds like or feels like because you've never done it or heard it during
>> your language-formative years. It's like trying to explain "L"s and "R"s to
>> someone who has exclusively spoken languages that lack them, or like
>> explaining the difference between "pin" and "pen" to someone who speaks a
>> dialect that pronounces them exactly alike. The difference is smaller to
>> his ear than the difference between two different people saying "pen", so
>> he can't hear which of the two words anyone is saying.
>>
>> English starts vowel-first syllables with a glottal stop. Deal with it.
>>
>> My wife pronounces "where" and "wear" exactly alike and thinks my
>> pronunciation of "where" is sufficiently alien to her to be no end of
>> amusement. She pronounces "why" like the letter "Y". It leaves me wondering
>> why she doesn't pronounce "who" as "woo". When I point that out, she
>> becomes puzzled. She never thought about that until I pointed it out, then
>> she just declares "That's just how it is," and avoids thinking about it
>> further, since she prefers to think that her pronunciation is generally
>> better than mine, when there is a difference.
>>
>> She also thinks that if a man says something in a forest and there is no
>> woman there to hear him, yes, he is still wrong.
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>> lojmIt tI'wI' nuv
>>
>> > On Oct 3, 2015, at 4:25 AM, Lieven <levinius at gmx.de> wrote:
>> >
>> > I wrote:
>> >> Because in Klingon, no word starts with a vowel. Even from a linguistic
>> >> view, in most languages, words woth vowels start with a glottal stop.
>> >> Try saying "I ate eight egg" without the stop. I will sound like
>> >> "hi-yate-tate-hags".
>> >
>> >> Am 22.09.2015 um 09:32 schrieb Anthony Appleyard:
>> >> In my pronunciation of English (I am in England), the separator in
>> "I-ate-eight-eggs" is a slight hesitation, and not a true glottal stop with
>> closure of the glottis.
>> >
>> > This may be correct from a linguistic point of view, but my explanation
>> is the very closest approachment I can get to explain this to a
>> non-linguist, which are most of the Klingon students.
>> >
>> > It's also possible that my example does not work exactly in english as
>> it does in German though.
>> >
>> > --
>> > Lieven L. Litaer
>> > aka Quvar valer 'utlh
>> > Grammarian of the KLI
>> > http://www.facebook.com/Klingonteacher
>> > http://www.klingonwiki.net/En/Apostrophe
>> >
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