[Tlhingan-hol] meme question

Christopher Kidder-Mostrom cokidder at gmail.com
Mon Nov 23 07:59:18 PST 2015


I have to confess that I really enjoy the fact that the directors and
actors have a direct effect on the evolution of the language.  Every
non-constructed language has exceptions to their grammar rules, and this is
one way for tlhIngan Hol to develop them.  The fact that Marc treats them
as such is beautiful to me.  He doesn't besmirch those working on the
official projects.  Instead, he incorporates, explains, and develops
reasons for the changes that come about.

On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 9:32 AM, chransberry at gmail.com <
chransberry at gmail.com> wrote:

> Pesky directors!
>
> -QISta'
>
>
> ----- Reply message -----
> From: "De'vID" <de.vid.jonpin at gmail.com>
> Date: Mon, Nov 23, 2015 01:58
> Subject: [Tlhingan-hol] meme question
> To: "tlhIngan Hol mailing list" <tlhingan-hol at kli.org>
>
> > On Nov 11, 2015 9:13 PM, "Karen Alessio" <karenalessio at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Ok, so I saw this Worf meme on the KLI facebook page, and I have a
> newbie
> >> grammar question.
> >> I hope I can send an attachment to the mailing list. Sorry that it may
> >> seem like a weird topic, talking about lovers and all, it was just the
> >> grammar confused me.
> >>
> >> The phrase in question is written as "parmaqqaywI' SoH vIneH",
> >> however I would like to know if maybe it would be more correct as
> >> "parmaqqaywI' SoH 'e' vIneH" with something like 'e' there to mark the
> >> depenant clause?
> > oops I didnt put KLBC in the subject!
>
> Did anyone answer this? I think maybe 'arHa missed it because the
> subject didn't say [KLBC]. Since it's been more than a week, .
>
> See section 6.2.5 of The Klingon Dictionary: "When the verb of the
> second sentence is {neH} 'want', neither {'e'} nor {net} is used, but
> the construction is otherwise identical to that just described."
>
> (As for why {neH} is such a special verb, that has to do with the
> director of Star Trek III wanting to change the meaning of a line
> which had already been filmed. That story's been told on this mailing
> list hundreds of times by now, although maybe someone will want to
> tell it again.)
>
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