[Tlhingan-hol] Klingon Word of the Day: tlhutlh

[Felix Malmenbeck]

I have no problem with {HIvje'vo' tlhutlh}; I feel that it matches the description that the "action is in a direction away from the noun", as it it transporting the object away from it.

Some examples in canon which I feel are more or less analogous:

{HoD, yo'SeH yaHnIvvo' potlh De' wIHevtaH.}
"Captain, we are receiving a priority message from Operations Command."
Spoken by Vixis in Star Trek V

{chaq SoHvo' vay' vIje' vIneH.}
"Perhaps I'd like to buy something from you."
Spoken by a Human in Power Klingon; it's meant to be an example of somebody speaking poorly, but I don't think the grammar is meant to be the problem.

{Daq SumHa'vo' wab Huj Qoylu' / qa' bIQ Dujvo' qab Qoylu'}
"Strange sounds come from afar, / It is the barge of the Dead,"
paq'batlh, paq'raD, Canto 1, Stanza 5

{DaH rolIjvo' tIqDu'lIj lellaH}
"He could rip your heats [sic] out at will,"
paq'batlh, paq'raD, Canto 20, Stanza 9

In all of these cases, the subject can be considered stationary, and the motion is towards them, away from something else that is specified using -vo'.

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From: SuStel <sustel at trimboli.name>
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2015 21:39
To: tlhingan-hol at kli.org
Subject: Re: [Tlhingan-hol] Klingon Word of the Day: tlhutlh

On 11/18/2015 3:00 PM, Alan Anderson wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 2:11 PM, qurgh lungqIj <qurgh at wizage.net> wrote:
>> So something like this would be fine?
>>
>> nujwIjDaq HIvje'vo' HIq vIqang
>> I pour the alcohol (away) from the cup to my mouth (To my mouth, away from
>> the cup, I pour the alcohol)
>
> I'd accept that, but just barely. In KGT, {qang} is said to mean "pour
> into", which to me seems to imply transfer from one container to
> another. The related term {lIch} (approximately "pour out") might be
> more appropriate.

In his sentence, his mouth was acting as the target container. Assuming
we're allowed to read the {-Daq} as "to" instead of "at," then his
sentence is correct. {lIch} could be used as well.

Where does the definition "approximately 'pour out'" come from? KGT has
"pour (into/onto anything)" and I'm not sure where else the word has
been used.

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