[Tlhingan-hol] KLBC: locative object

Karen Alessio karenalessio at gmail.com
Tue Nov 17 03:35:00 PST 2015


thank you so much!
On Nov 17, 2015 2:39 AM, <qov at kli.org> wrote:

> In violation of ‘arHa’s mandate, but out of respect and admiration for Karen
> Alessio & Fatairae, who are thinking and talking about tlhIngan Hol between
> themselves, I am answering this question.
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> > Karen and I were spitting at each other, and had a debate on locatives.
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> > ravchajDaq bIQong
> > bIQong ravchajDaq
> > "You sleep on their floor"
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> The Klingon Dictionary is clear on this point.  See the end of section 6.1
> on p. 60.  “Any noun in the sentence indicating something other than
> subject or object comes first, before the object noun. Such nouns usually
> end in a type 5 noun suffix.” It may help to think of the locative noun as
> being the setting established for the subsequent phrase. The order is
> mandatory.
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> ravchajDaq bIQong.
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> > Some languages treat locatives as an object, others as an independent.
> Is the order important here? Or is it a theoretical third, that explicitly
> makes the floor the object?
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> > ravchajDaq DaQong
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> There are a few verbs of motion that take their destination as an object,
> but in general Klingon locations are not objects.
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> Keep talking, keep thinking and keep asking.  This is the gold standard of
> what beginner questions should look like: a simple question that you’ve
> thought about and tried to solve on your own, with examples that show your
> care and ability.  Plus the spitting.  Very important.
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> reH tlhIngan Hol bojatlhjaj!
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>   - Qov ‘utlh
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