[Tlhingan-hol] Concerning the purpose clauses

[Will Martin]

See below.

Star Trek V.

Quoted in HolQeD volume 8, number 4, page 11. Either it’s clipped or flubbed by the actor, or the {yI-} was missed because it follows {-‘e’} in the script.

pItlh
lojmIt tI'wI'nuv



> On Nov 11, 2015, at 4:40 PM, André Müller <esperantist at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Interesting. I don't have any example for {mIm} in my notes. Maybe it appeared in that Sonnet or in Monopoly? I apparently didn't get all the sentences from there, yet. Do you remember the source of this sentence? And what is it in Klingon? {yImImQo'!}, {pemImQo'!}? I'd like to add it to my notes...
> 
> - André
> 
> 2015-11-11 22:34 GMT+01:00 Will Martin <lojmitti7wi7nuv at gmail.com <mailto:lojmitti7wi7nuv at gmail.com>>:
> qatlho’.
> 
> The point here is that I had noted a canon example of {mIm} being used with no direct object. “Do not delay." That doesn’t prove that it can’t be used with a direct object, though. Does anyone have a canon example of {mIm} being used with a direct object?
> 
> It seems like a reasonable gloss for having a direct object, but you never know… It could be that you’d have to say {Qu’ yImImmoHQo’} instead of {Qu’ yImImQo’}.
> 
> pItlh
> lojmIt tI'wI'nuv
> 
> 
> 
>> On Nov 10, 2015, at 1:36 PM, DloraH <seruq at bellsouth.net <mailto:seruq at bellsouth.net>> wrote:
>> 
>> (This message never came back to me through the email list.
>> Was the previous attempt successful for anyone else?
>> I'm sending it again, in case it failed for everyone.)
>> 
>> 
>>> 	you took away my shoes in order to delay me
>>> 	chomImmeH waqmeywIj Dange'
>>> 
>>> 
>>> If someone has their issues of HolQeD handy, I have a note in 
>>> my dictionary about volume 8, number 4, page 11 relating to 
>>> the verb {mIm}. I apparently interpreted that to mean the 
>>> verb did not take an object. Until I can read that passage, 
>>> however, I can't see a reason to correct this one.
>> 
>> The page is giving the Klingon from ST V.
>> 
>> tlh'a' HoD, nIm-buS wej yI-ghoS.  vub-pu' jon-ta' HeS-wI'.  wa' vub ghaH tlhI-ngan ghar-wI'-'e'.
>> wa' ghaH te-ra'-ngan-'e'.  mIm-Qo'.  DaH He-raj yI-choH.  batlh tlhI-ngan Segh yI-Hub.  Qap-la'.
>> 
>> "Captain Klaa, proceed to Nimbus III.  A criminal has succeeded in taking hostages.  One hostage is
>> a Klingon diplomat.  One is a Terran.  One is a Romulan.  Do not delay.  Alter your course now.
>> Defend the Klingon race with honor.  Success."
>> 
>> (The Klingon did not include any mention of the Romulan hostage.)
>> 
>> 
>> - DloraH
>> 
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