[Tlhingan-hol] Concerning the purpose clauses

[Will Martin]

There is no “but”. Okrand says the {-meH} clause must precede the noun or verb it modifies. Nothing anywhere suggests otherwise.

Other Type 9 based dependent clauses can follow the main clause or precede it. The speaker or writer has both options. There is no option to put {-meH} after the noun or verb it modifies.

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> On Nov 10, 2015, at 1:01 PM, qunnoQ HoD <mihkoun at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I know that in TKD,it says that the purpose clause always precedes etc.. but I just want to make sure.
> 
> On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 7:59 PM, qunnoQ HoD <mihkoun at gmail.com <mailto:mihkoun at gmail.com>> wrote:
> luckily,before moving on,I realized something needed further clarification..
> 
> lets consider the following sentences :
> 
> {Sutmey chenmoHmeH targh luSurgh} <<they skinned the targh in order to make clothes>>
> {la' luQeHmoHmeH Duj luQaw’} <<they destroyed the vessel to anger the commander>>
> 
> I noticed that the {-meH} word comes at the beginning of the sentence (or at least after the first word)
> Can the sentences above be formulated as :
> 
> {targh luSurgh Sutmey chenmoHmeH}
> {Duj luQaw’ la' luQeHmoHmeH} ?
> 
> as it seems the "sentences as objects" constellation will have to wait..
> 
> On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 7:06 PM, DloraH <seruq at bellsouth.net <mailto:seruq at bellsouth.net>> wrote:
> >       you took away my shoes in order to delay me
> >       chomImmeH waqmeywIj Dange'
> >
> >
> > If someone has their issues of HolQeD handy, I have a note in
> > my dictionary about volume 8, number 4, page 11 relating to
> > the verb {mIm}. I apparently interpreted that to mean the
> > verb did not take an object. Until I can read that passage,
> > however, I can't see a reason to correct this one.
> 
> The page is giving the Klingon from ST V.
> 
> tlh'a' HoD, nIm-buS wej yI-ghoS.  vub-pu' jon-ta' HeS-wI'.  wa' vub ghaH tlhI-ngan ghar-wI'-'e'.
> wa' ghaH te-ra'-ngan-'e'.  mIm-Qo'.  DaH He-raj yI-choH.  batlh tlhI-ngan Segh yI-Hub.  Qap-la'.
> 
> "Captain Klaa, proceed to Nimbus III.  A criminal has succeeded in taking hostages.  One hostage is
> a Klingon diplomat.  One is a Terran.  One is a Romulan.  Do not delay.  Alter your course now.
> Defend the Klingon race with honor.  Success."
> 
> (The Klingon did not include any mention of the Romulan hostage.)
> 
> 
> - DloraH
> 
> 
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