[Tlhingan-hol] povjajwIj

[qunnoQ HoD]

> I just wanted to let qunnoQ know that {juHDaq vIchegh} is, though
counterintuitive on its face, also a perfectly fine option.

thank you very much for the clarification !

On Fri, Nov 6, 2015 at 6:47 AM, Rohan Fenwick <qeslagh at hotmail.com> wrote:

> ghItlhpu' De'vID, jatlh:
> > {juH vIchegh} 'e' vImaS. There's some contradiction in the canon about
> > how to specify the destination of {chegh}. But this was clarified in
> > this email:
> > http://klingonska.org/canon/1999-07-19b-email.txt
> > {juHDaq jIchegh} is ambiguous and can mean either "I return home" or
> > "I return at home (I return somewhere, while inside my house)".
>
> vIjangpu' jIH, jIjatlh:
> > Not quite. {juHDaq jIchegh} isn't actually ambiguous, and means only the
> > latter: "I return, while inside my house". For "I return home" (that is,
> "I
> > return *to* the house"), the sentence must actually be either {juH
> vIchegh}
> > or {juHDaq vIchegh}, in both instances with the pronominal prefix {vI-}.
> > With verbs of motion like {chegh} and {jaH} and {'el}, the pronominal
> prefix
> > is the important part in disambiguating the meaning (use of the
> superfluous
> > {-Daq} is a marked but grammatical variant in the {vIchegh} form).
>
> jang je De'vID, jatlh:
> > According to that article, you're right. But as I said, there's some
> > contradiction in the canon.
> > In Power Klingon, we have {ghorgh pa'wIjDaq jIchegh?} (not {vIchegh})
> > and {naDevvo' vaS'a'Daq majaHlaH'a'?} (not {wIjaH}). Maybe others will
> > be able to come up with other examples from canon.
>
> The first is from CK, but yes, a good point well taken.
>
> The concern for me here is more that we have an explicit explanation from
> Marc of what the rule is. If that exists, I feel we should treat that as
> the prescriptive model to follow when composing our own Klingon, and since
> qunnoQ is a relative beginner (all respect intended, qunnoQ!), now's the
> time to work on best practice. We know canon doesn't always quite follow
> the prescriptive rules - {'e' reH lunIDtaH} from S26 is a perfect example
> of that. The other thing on my mind was I just wanted to let qunnoQ know
> that {juHDaq vIchegh} is, though counterintuitive on its face, also a
> perfectly fine option.
>
> QeS 'utlh
>
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