[Tlhingan-hol] qepHom 2015 with Marc Okrand

[Elizabeth Lawrence]

It's dangerous to use English words as examples for vowel sounds, because
of all the regional variation.  However, (at least in northeastern American
English) the word cop does rhyme with shop, so the example is confusing.
Sop would rhyme (approximately) with cope.  (Also rhyming: mope, dope, etc.)

be''etlh

On Sat, Mar 28, 2015 at 5:51 PM, Lieven <levinius at gmx.de> wrote:

> Am 28.03.2015 um 14:30 schrieb SuStel:
>
>> It really doesn't. As described in THE KLINGON DICTIONARY, {o} sounds
>> the same as {ow}, or /oʊ/, a diphthong.
>>
>
> Most of the time I agree with you, but not here.
>
> TKD does not say anything about a diphthong here, or a sound like [oʊ].
> The only written description is "o as in english mosaic". When editing the
> german Klingon dictionary, I talked to Okrand, and he said this was maybe a
> bad example, because few people say [mow-zay-eek] instead of [mo-za-eek].
>
> This example only intended to make clear it's the [o] as in "cop", so the
> word {Sop} should not rhyme with "shop". Say {bom} as [bom], not [boʊm].
>
> PS: Even Okrand sometimes did not follow his own rules, for instance on
> one of the tapes he says {SoH} like [SɔX] instead of [SoX]. (But he still
> never said [SoʊX]).
>
> Sorry for nitpicking, but this is an important detail.
>
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