[Tlhingan-hol] ghawran DIS chu' nabmey

[SuStel]

On 12/29/2015 5:45 AM, mayql qunenoS wrote:
> qen jabbI'ID wo' luwoHpu' nochmaj
> recently an imperial transmission our sensors pick up

{jabbI'ID wo'} is "data transmission empire" (a kind of empire). What 
you want is {wo' jabbI'ID} "empire data transmission" (a kind of 
transmission).

I think {woH} "pick up" refers to lifting something with your hands, and 
the like. I don't know if it can refer to detection by sensors.

    qen wo' jabbI'ID lutu'pu' nochmaj

> 'ej ghawran DIS chu' nabmey pIQHa' wItu'..
> gowron's devious new year plans..

This sentence is not incorrect, but you might use {wIghoj} instead of 
{wItu'}.

> toQDuj So' ra' ghawran 'ej tera'Daq ngeH.
> gowron ordered a cloaked bird of prey and sent it to earth.

{So'} means "hide," not "be hidden." Use {toQDuj So'lu'pu'bogh} "bird of 
prey which has been cloaked."

When I see {toQDuj So'lu'pu'bogh ra' ghawran} I think it means "Gowron 
commands a cloaked bird of prey." Try these on for size:

    tera'Daq toQDuj So'lu'pu'bogh ngeHpu' ghawran
    Gowron sent a cloaked bird of prey to Earth

    tera ghoS toQDuj So'lu'pu'bogh 'e' ra' ghawran
    Gowron commands that a cloaked bird of prey go to Earth

> tI Huj qem 'e' poQ, /mistletoe/ lupong tera'nganpu' 'e' tI.
> he demanded that it brings a strange plant, a plant that terans call mistletoe.

What's that {'e' tI} at the end? The sentences are correct without it. 
{'e' tI} is gibberish.

> /mistletoe/vam lan'egh ghawran, may'DujDaj lojmItmeyDaq
> gowron will place himself this mistletoe, at his battle cruiser's doors

{lan'egh ghawran} means that Gowron will place himself somewhere. We 
don't think you can use objects with {-'egh}. You can achieve the effect 
you want with a little emphasis:

    /mistletoe/vam lan ghawran'e'
    GOWRON (and not someone else) places this mistletoe

Technically, the locative phrase {may'DujDaj lojmItmeyDaq} needs to come 
at the beginning of the sentence.

    may'DujDaj lojmItmeyDaq /mistletoe/vam lan ghawran'e'
    GOWRON (and not someone else) places this mistletoe at his battle
    cruiser's door

> 'ej DIS chu' loS.
> and wait for the new year.
>
> ngugh, Hoch yaS 'uch, bIng /mistletoe/ !
> at that time, he will embrace every officer under the mistletoe !

When using location words like {bIng} and {Dung} (there are lots more of 
them), build them as normal noun-noun constructions. And, as with 
locative phrases in general, they go before the OVS part of the sentence.

    ngugh /mistletoe/ bIngDaq Hoch yaS 'uch
    at that time he will hold each officer under the mistletoe

Two special notes which relate to this sentence, but which didn't come up.

First, when using those location nouns, if you're combining them with a 
pronoun, DON'T use possessive suffixes. For instance, if you want to say 
"my right side," don't say *{nIHwIj}. We used to think this is what you 
would say. We learned otherwise in some piece of canon. Keep the pronoun 
separate: {jIH nIH} "my right side."

Second, when combining {Hoch} with another noun, the plural marker, or 
lack thereof, becomes important. {Hoch N} means "each N, taken 
individually," while {Hoch N-mey}, {Hoch N-Du'}, {Hoch N-pu'} mean "all 
Ns, taken together." You used the correct form in your sentence: {Hoch 
yaS 'uch} "he holds each officer (individually)." Don't say {Hoch yaSpu' 
'uch} "he holds all officers (all at once)." This is the one time that a 
plural must be explicit.

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