[Tlhingan-hol] ulesses Ha'DIbaH

[mayql qunenoS]

ghItlhpu' ghunchu'wI', jatlh :

> cha'maH cha' joQDu' ghajba' Ha'DIbaH.

jIQochbe' ghunchu'wI'..
I agree (with you) ghunchu'wI'..

ghItlhpu' QeS, jatlh :

> 'opben
> maHvaD ngugh jatlhlu', {loSben boghlaw'pu' ghaH}.
> vaj qanqu'ba' Odysseus Ha'DIbaHHey, 'ach 'e' vIlajqangchu' jIH'e'.

before I ask about your sentences, I want to say that I admire the way
you write ! I hope someday
I will acquire similar skill..

there are three questions I would like to ask you

1. if instead of {'opben}, one wrote {'op ben} would that be wrong ?
2. in your sentence maHvaD ngugh jatlhlu', {loSben boghlaw'pu' ghaH},
I see that you wrote (if my
    translation is correct) : "then/at that time someone said for us"
and then you placed what he said
    in {...} Can I assume, this is one of the ways to quote someone's words ?
3. the way I translated the following sentence :
   {vaj qanqu'ba' Odysseus Ha'DIbaHHey, 'ach 'e' vIlajqangchu' jIH'e'.}
   I understand it says :
   <in that case, the apparent dog of odysseus was obviously very old,
     however I'm perfectly willing to accept it>
     I don't understand the use of {'e'} after the {'ach} and of the
{-'e'} after the jIH..

cpt qunnoQ

On Sat, Dec 26, 2015 at 9:16 AM, Rohan Fenwick <qeslagh at hotmail.com> wrote:
> ghItlhpu' qunnoQ, jatlh:
>> Ha'DIbaH ghaj ulesses 'e' wISov.
>> we all know that ulesses had a dog.
>
> (poD vay')
>
>> wa' ben 'oHchugh Ha'DIbaH'e', tlheDDI' ulesses..
>> if the dog was one year old, when ulesses left..
>>
>> cheghDI' ulesses, chay' yIntaH Ha'DIbaH jay' ?
>> when ulesses returned, how the @*!#@ dog was still alive ?
>>
>> cha'maH DISmey yInbe' 'elaDya'ngan 'avwI' Ha'DIbaHmey !
>> greek shepherd dogs don't live 21 years !
>
> wIch neH 'oH lutvetlh'e'; 'ach vabDot Ha'DIbaH Seghvetlh chovnatlh'a'
> bopbogh lutHom teH vIjatlh. 'opben Heghpu'mo' Ha'DIbaHmaj, tera' DIS 1993
> Ha'DIbaH chu' wInejlI' jIH qorDu'wIj je. juHDaj mejnISpu' latlh qorDu', vaj
> Do'Ha' Ha'DIbaHDaj SuqHa'nISpu'. (juH chu' DablaH Ha'DIbaH net tuch.) vaj
> Ha'DIbaHDaj je'pu' qorDu'wIj. "Shadow" ({QIb}) ponglu', qIjqu'chu'mo'
> veDDaj. maHvaD ngugh jatlhlu', {loSben boghlaw'pu' ghaH}.
>
> 'ach QelvaD Ha'DIbaHmaj wInuDmoH 'ej Ha'DIbaH yInroH wIDajmoH. rInDI', nuja'
> Qel: {teychuqtaHmo' Ho'Du', Shadow qoS vInoHlaH. chaq loSben boghpu', 'ach
> ghaytan DISmey yInpu'bogh nI' law' DISmeyHeyvetlh nI' puS. chaq vaghben
> boghpu'; chaq javben boghpu'; chaq Sochben boghpu'. Soch qIt law' loS qIt
> puS 'e' vIbej.} 1993 vaj wISuqpu'DI', ghaytan javben Sochben ghap boghpu'
> Shadow. yIn 'ej yIntaH ghaH, 'ach tagha' ropqu'choH ghaH; HomDu'Daj
> vIHmoHlaHqu'be'pu', 'ej 'oy'qu'choHpu'. vaj tagha' wIHeghmoHpu'
> ma'IQqu'taHvIS maH, qaStaHvIS tera' DIS 2006. nutlhejchu'taH qaStaHvIS
> wa'maH wej DIS, 'ej nutlhejchoHpa', chaq yIntaH qaStaHvIS latlh jav DIS,
> latlh Soch DIS ghap. vaj qanqu'ba' Odysseus Ha'DIbaHHey, 'ach 'e'
> vIlajqangchu' jIH'e'.
>
> SKI: The age of Odysseus's dog is striking for sure, but based on evidence
> from a dear old dog of his own, QeS buys it at least in principle.
>
> QeS 'utlh
>
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