[Tlhingan-hol] mIl'oD veDDIr SuvwI': 20. jeghbe' tlhInganpu'

De'vID de.vid.jonpin at gmail.com
Sat Dec 5 15:41:17 PST 2015


QeS:
> bIQtIq HeH SIchpu'DI' 'avtanDIl, tlhe''egh

Do you really mean he turned himself, or would {He choH} be more
appropriate here?

QeS:
> 'ej ngech'a'vo' lulIghDajDaq[1] toSqa'. qaSbe'pu'bogh poHDaj, qaSbe'pu'bogh jajmeyDaj togh;

Is this apposition? I'm confused by the relationship between the two
things listed. I also don't understand what those things are, as they
seem to be things that didn't happen.

Bear in mind that I've only started reading from the last section and
am probably missing some context.

Ah, okay, I think I got it after reading the next sentence. He's
counting his remaining time to some deadline. I'm not sure
{qaSbe'pu'bogh poH} is the best way to put this. Maybe {wej qaSpu'bogh
poH}? Counting something which hasn't happened yet (and hence is
non-existent) strikes me as weird, at least on first reading. I'll
have to think about it.

Maybe just {ratlhbogh poH} would be sufficient? I'm not entirely sure
{ratlh} can be used for time, though. (I think the only canon use of
{ratlh} is in the Klingon CD, where it's used to describe someone
physically remaining in place?)

QeS:
> ghaHvaD ratlh cha' jar neH 'e' tu'. tu'mo' moghchoH; belbe'qu'bej.
>
> «ghuy'cha'! vay' 'angchoHlu'jaj!» jatlh. ratlhbogh poH ngajmo',

{ngajmo' ratlhbogh poH}? {ratlhmo' ngajbogh poH}? I feel like it's
more natural Klingon to stick {-mo'} on a verb, rather than a noun (or
an adjective-verb attached to a noun).

How about just {ngajmo' poH}? {ratlhbogh} seems redundant,

QeS:
> loQ
> yoHbe'choH tIqDaj. HoQwI'vaD quvwI' mojmoHlaH pagh; bogh'eghqa'moHlaH pagh.

Is this supposed to say "no one can cause himself/herself to be born again"?

I have no background on the religious beliefs of the characters, so is
this a reference to re-incarnation?

QeS:
> pay' QubchoH 'avtanDIl; qelmeH QamchoH je ghaH. jatlh'egh: «vaj
> jIcheghchugh, qatlh HatlhDaq jInejlI'qu' jIH? julwI'vaD[2] nuq vIjatlhlaH?
> Qu'wIjvaD nuq vIchavtaH? SuvwI'vetlh nov bopbogh pagh joS'e' vIQoypu'!

I think I know what you meant by the last sentence, but consider:
- {SuvwI'vetlh nov bopbogh joS'e' vIQoypu'be'}
- {wej SuvwI'vetlh nov bopbogh joS'e' vIQoypu'}
- {not SuvwI'vetlh nov bopbogh joS'e' vIQoypu'}

(And that's all I have time for tonight.)

-- 
De'vID



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