[Tlhingan-hol] Religious terminology

[Will Martin]

Hoch Davuvlaw’. qay’be’. ‘ach DIvI’Hol Dalo’taH ‘ej bIjatlhtaHvIS, tlhIngan Hol bopbe’ QInlIj.

This is a remarkably long thread during which you are neither speaking Klingon nor discussing its grammar nor vocabulary. This is why SuStel is responding to you in Klingon. This is the “it” that you are not getting.

It’s okay to briefly touch on tangential topics, like discussing appropriate topics for translation for beginners, but it’s less okay to go on and on about it in English without ever actually dealing with the language itself, either in substance or nature.

There are two rules here:

1. Write something in the Klingon language.

2. Write something about the Klingon language.

Eventually, you should start following at least one of these rules. It’s not just a place where people who are theoretically interested in the language or culture should write long messages about other people who theoretically have an interest in the language.

Just do it. Rule 1, or Rule 2. Take your pick.

I don’t say this disrespectfully. I don’t care about the past. This moment forward, follow at least one of the two rules. Don’t apologize. Don’t explain yourself. Just start living up to the etiquette of the list. Rule 1 or Rule 2.

lu’?

And please, DO call me on this when *I* make this same violation of the lists etiquette.

pItlh
lojmIt tI'wI'nuv



> On Dec 2, 2015, at 3:18 PM, qunnoQ HoD <mihkoun at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Before I reply,I would like to say that everything I write,is being
> written respectfully towards you and every other member of this list.
> I'm not trying to argue with you or anyone else. Nor am I trying to
> impose my views. Please don't get the idea that this is becoming an
> increasingly "heated" discussion. I'm just exchanging views with you
> and everyone else than may be reading this. I do not want to argue
> with anyone.
> 
> With this being said,I realize now what our problem is. We cannot come
> to a commonly accepted conclusion,as far as "which should be
> considered beginners sentences" is concerned. But the answer is
> simple.. And the answer is before our eyes..
> 
> Which book has been written for beginners ? The TKD.. So,please
> compare your sentences and Bellerophon's as well to the sentences that
> are written there (in TKD) ; Can you honestly tell me,that they are of
> the same complexity ?
> 
> qun HoD
> 
> On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 9:45 PM, SuStel <sustel at trimboli.name> wrote:
>> On 12/2/2015 2:36 PM, qunnoQ HoD wrote:
>>> 
>>> When one starts driving,he isn't expected to understand everything his
>>> teacher is doing,before he takes the wheel. He learns the basics,then
>>> starts driving on an empty street with 20 km/h on the right side,and
>>> gradually he develops his skills.
>> 
>> 
>> SepwIjDaq Hoch chutmey yajnIS taghwI', yav Duj SeHchoHpa'. yaj 'e' tob qum.
>> tobqu'pu'DI' qeqchoHlaH.
>> 
>> pIm'a' SeplIj?
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> SuStel
>> http://trimboli.name
>> 
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