[Tlhingan-hol] Aspect, etc

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Haha; I'll keep that in mind :-D.

-QISta'


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From: "lojmIt tI'wI' nuv 'utlh" <lojmitti7wi7nuv at gmail.com>
Date: Tue, Dec 1, 2015 20:12
Subject: [Tlhingan-hol] Aspect, etc
To: "tlhingan-hol at kli.org" <tlhingan-hol at kli.org>

Don’t forget Worf’s advice on the Conversational Klingon tape:

“A Klingon may be inaccurate, but he is NEVER approximate!”

In other words, it is okay to give an exact specification for a time stamp and be quite wrong. If anyone calls you on it, you don’t have to apologize. Just fight; it’s one of those win/win situations.

lojmIt tI’wI’ nuv ‘utlh
Door Repair Guy, Retired Honorably



> On Dec 1, 2015, at 8:53 PM, Rohan Fenwick <qeslagh at hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
> ghItlhpu' QISta', jatlh:
> > Also, in regards to "time-stamps", I see that one can say "a year ago"
> > and such, but how would one express that something happened at some
> > unspecified time in the past (or in the future, for that matter)?
> 
> The safe way of doing it is as SuStel has noted, with constructions like {'op ben} "some years ago", {leS puS} "a few days from now", and so forth.
> 
> There's been some conjecture as to whether {ret} and {pIq} can be used on their own as sorts of general adverbials of time reference - in the Klingon subtitles I did for "Star Trek: First Contact", I at first rendered Picard's statement of "they must have done it in the past" as {ret lurInmoHba'ta'} - but we have no canon evidence of whether this is really possible.
> 
> (Also, note that I used {ret} explicitly for "[at some point] in the past", standing in addition to, not merely in place of, the tense/aspect reference of "they must have done it". I wouldn't accept bare {ret} and {pIq} being used as general tense markers and I don't think many other speakers would accept them in that sense either.)
> 
> jang SuStel, jatlh:
> > I believe paq'batlh has {'op ben} for "some years ago."
> 
> It also has the formally compounded {'opleS} "someday (in the future)" (paq'batlh: paq'yav 2.8, 2.11-12).
> 
> taH:
> > You can also say {ben law'} "many years ago"
> 
> ...HoD Huj vIqIH. :)
> 
> QeS 'utlh
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