[Tlhingan-hol] Need a word for ...

[Brent Kesler]

I'm starting to think this might be a culturally nuanced word that doesn't
have a good direct translation, but is so useful it ends up a loan word,
like "chutzpah" or "schadenfreude". Perhaps with some sort of folk
etymology...

tlhIngan wa': De'wI' patlh vItI' vIneH, 'ach Qatlhqu'! tI'meH Deghpu' vay',
ghIq Deghpu' vay' latlh, ghIq Deghpu' vay' latlh latlh. tInqu' mIS!
vIDelmeH mu'mey vIHulth.
tlhIngan cha': wanI'vam DelmeH mu' lughaj Humanpu': {QavtI'}.
tlhIngan wa': Qav... tI'?
tlhIngan cha': qar. vay' tI'meH Deghpu'DI' tI'wI', tI'wI' Qav gheS 'e' Har.
tI'wI' Qav gheS 'e' Har tI'wI' veb, tI'wI' veb je. ja' ngIq tI'wI', {Qav
tI'ghachvam}, 'ej mIS'a' mojmeH boqtaH Hoch tI'ghachmey. vaj, {QavtI'}.

bI'reng


On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 10:01 AM, <lojmitti7wi7nuv at gmail.com> wrote:

> <<maSorHa’laH>> bIjatlh. wot {Sor} vIghovbe’. jIqay’ vIneHbe’. qen mu’mey
> qub wISuqpu’. We’ve gotten words for games we are clueless on how to play.
> We’ve gotten words for geometric shapes. It just seemed like “cruft” would
> be an interesting and useful word to have. I’d see it as useful as
> {wejpuH}, which is a remarkably useful word.
>
> But it’s just an opinion, and not one with artificial importance. I
> perhaps implied artificial importance and that was unintentional and
> incorrect, and would have been dishonorable and inexcusable, were it my
> intent.
>
> Okrand doesn’t owe me any words. If he finds the word interesting,
> himself, he can make his own choice about it, if it ever occurs to him.
>
> lojmIt tI’wI’ nuv ‘utlh
> Retired Door Repair Guy
>
> > On Nov 19, 2014, at 7:21 PM, Alan Anderson <qunchuy at alcaco.net> wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 4:03 PM,  <lojmitti7wi7nuv at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> but given the fully nuanced definition in Wikipedia
> >
> > DIvI' Hol mu' QIjchu'meH 'utchugh ghItlh tIn, wa' tlhIngan Hol mu'
> vIpIHbe'bej.
> >
> > To me, the word "cruft" itself merely means something like "detritus".
> > It carries in my mind an implication of material that has accreted or
> > has been exposed through erosion. It is not "garbage". To apply the
> > specific connotation apparently desired by tI'wI'nuv requires treating
> > it as computer jargon. Entire treatises are necessary to explain the
> > nuances to people who do not share the culture of those who brought
> > the word to its current state of meaning.
> >
> > chaq maSorHa'laH. bobcho' mIl? De' vorSaq? tlhoy DeHbogh De'wI' jan?
> > qal'aq notlh?
> >
> > -- ghunchu'wI'
> >
> > P.S. One of those supersonic nuclear bombers is on display
> > approximately 15 miles from my home. Attached to its underbelly is
> > said to be the only actual nuclear bomb casing (meaning it once
> > contained a working nuclear bomb) able to be touched by the general
> > public.
> >
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