[Tlhingan-hol] Maltz about "The Klingon Art of War"

[Felix Malmenbeck]

maj!

I think it's good that he didn't explicitly retcon all of the mistakes; some of them really are better to just forget about (like using «chenmoH» to mean "form (martial arts technique)"), but it's nice to have some more cultural words to use.

naj dream is a verb that can take as an object something that is being dreamt of.  So qul naj is dream(s) about fire or dream(s) of fire.

This could prove useful; I've long wondered how to say "dream about"!

The title «qul naj» was one of a handful of phrases provided by a group of klingonists (and not Bing Translator); we knew that it was a naughty construction, but it was the best we could do, and we figured the author might be waxing poetic.

Maltz said ruv’etlh for sword of justice made the most sense to him, but he thought vo’ruv ’etlh might be an older term for the sword.

Marc recently mentioned to me that while there's a common perception that noun-noun constructs must be separated by spaces, he's actually not at all picky about that.

16 nov 2014 kl. 10:42 skrev Lieven <levinius at gmx.de<mailto:levinius at gmx.de>>:

Marc Okrand was so kind to vet some of the words used in Keith RA DeCandido's book "The Klingon Art of War", which happens to be released in German at this year's qepHom.

He said that he cannot talk about all the words, probably because there are too many, and he certainly does not want to say that they are wrong.

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naj dream is a verb that can take as an object something that is being dreamt of.  So qul naj is dream(s) about fire or dream(s) of fire.

So in Klingon the title of the story is a little sentence while in English it's been altered to be a noun phrase.

Maltz said ruv’etlh for sword of justice made the most sense to him, but he thought vo’ruv ’etlh might be an older term for the sword.

Maltz said he never heard the word QuchHa’ for those Klingons. He said that must be a very old word or a taboo word that had gone out of fashion or something like that. He said the only word he knew for those afflicted Klingons was a word used mostly by children — HabwI’ (one who is smooth) — but that maybe there was another word or a technical term that he just didn't know. He said that Klingons don't like to talk about this and maybe that's why he didn't know the terminology.

About the moQbara’ terms:
Maltz said he wasn't really qualified to comment on those. There are lots of old and/or weird terms associated with the moQbara’. There are sometimes three or four terms for the same movement or form, and Maltz was sure he hadn't heard  all of them.

For example, he was familiar with the notion of the hundred repetitions, but he's only heard the word wa’vatlhlogh associated with that (as in a phrase like wa’vatlhlogh qIp hit a hundred times) and never heard poHmey vatlh — but he wouldn't say it wasn't the term used by somebody or other. He said maybe these words come from other dialects or are altered from very old constructions.

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