[Tlhingan-hol] tlhoy'

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For what it's worth, the Air Force also uses the terms "bulkhead" and "hatch" to refer to barriers between pressurized and unpressurized compartments. I think it's quite common to use the term "hatch" to refer to the sealable passage through a bulkhead, which protects you from water or vacuum or poisonous gas, or whatever your side of the bulkhead protects you from. I'm pretty sure they used the same terms at the paper plant my step-father worked in, referring to the barrier between the inside and outside of the chlorine tank for bleaching paper. The hatch was for maintenance crews to go in through, after the chlorine had been vented (though three were injured when the hatch was opened while the chamber was full of chlorine gas).

I'd never heard that the Marines expand the use of the terms to such an odd extreme.

On May 20, 2014, at 3:42 PM, Steven Boozer <sboozer at uchicago.edu> wrote:

> Okrand:
>>>> An interior wall (such as a wall separating your living room from
>>>> your kitchen) is a {tlhoy'}. An exterior wall (that is, a wall which
>>>> separates the inside of a building from the outside) is a {reD}. For
>>>> the interior side of an exterior wall, it is quite common to use {tlhoy'}
> 
> lojmIttI'wI':
>>> But territorial walls are called {tlhoy'}.
> 
> gheyIl:
>> It seems that {tlhoy'} is a wall/barrier that separates 2 areas which
>> are essentially the same (ie. both rooms, both parts of a city, etc)
>> Whereas words like {reD} {yergho} separate 2 areas which are substantially
>> different from each other (ie. inside & outside, city & countryside, etc)
> 
> But not a ship's hull, separating the inside of the ship from the outside, which Klingons call a {Som}.  Whether Klingon ships can also have {tlhoy'mey} - is unknown.  In the Navy we generally referred to "partitions" (which were not water-tight and had doors [yep, like in a house!]) vs. "bulkheads" (which were water-tight and had sealable hatches, though this usage may not have been quite according to the strict dictionary definition of either.
> 
> FYI:  US Marines typically refer to all walls as "bulkheads", all doors as "hatches", all floors as "decks" and all ceilings as "overheads" - yes, even in buildings on land! - in order to differentiate themselves from the Army.  Klingons also distinguish the deck {choQ} from the floor (rav}.  {rav'eq} and [pa' beb} both refer to the ceiling but {'aqroS} "top (interior)":
> 
> HQ 8.3:  If one were sitting under a table, the (presumably) flat surface above one is termed the {'aqroS} ... It is possible to use {'aqroS} to refer to a ceiling, through the other two terms [i.e. {rav'eq} & {pa' beb}] are more common. 
> 
> ... would work for an "overhead".  (AFAIK there are no examples of any of these used WRT ships.)
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