[Tlhingan-hol] 'arDaq

[Robyn Stewart]

vaghmaH ben ghel Guido wa’. jatlh, 

“yIH nachHey 'arDaq SuplaH tlhIngan?”

ghaH vIqaw. rurchuqmo’ Dujmaj jIHem.




- Qov

 

From: qurgh lungqIj [mailto:qurgh at wizage.net] 
Sent: June 16, 2014 12:56
To: Robyn Stewart
Subject: Re: [Tlhingan-hol] 'arDaq

 

The qaghwI' at the start of a sentence maybe confusing it. When I searched for arDaq I only got one hit though.

 

qurgh

 

On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 3:54 PM, Robyn Stewart <robyn at flyingstart.ca> wrote:

“The search "'arDaq" did not match any documents.”  Are there search syntax tricks I need?

 

It’s hard to believe this hasn’t come up. I happened to put ‘ar in the online course right after the N5 suffixes, and the style of the course made it a natural question.

 

From: qurgh lungqIj [mailto:qurgh at wizage.net] 
Sent: June 16, 2014 12:50
To: Robyn Stewart
Subject: Re: [Tlhingan-hol] 'arDaq

 

You can search most of the archive via the new site at http://www.speakklingon.info/activities/email-discussion-group/

 

I just haven't updated it to the most recent posts yet.

 

qurgh

 

On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 3:45 PM, Robyn Stewart <robyn at flyingstart.ca> wrote:

I’d do an archive search but ... website search sucks.

Have we ever discussed the extension of ‘ar beyond subject and object?

We have the examples:
nIn ‘ar wIghaj?
Haw’pu’ yaS ‘ar?

I imagine that at some point I have said something like one of the following in conversation, completely unaware that I was doing anything odd.

?quS ‘arDaq nav vIlannIS? – How many chairs do I need to place paper on?
?HoH ‘armo’ bortaS wISuq?- How many killings will we get vengeance for?
?nuv ‘arvaD Soj wIje’nIS? – How many people do we need to buy food for?


These two feel weirder, especially the last. I would omit the –‘e’
?tera’Daq be’ ‘IH ‘ar tu’lu’? – How many beautiful women are there on Earth?
?muj mu’tlhegh ‘ar’e’ qonbogh Qov?

In the light of ‘arlogh and qep’a’ wejDIchDaq I think I would argue for these forms. 

-Qov


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