[Tlhingan-hol] -ing vs. -er
Felix Malmenbeck
felixm at kth.se
Tue Jan 28 08:28:38 PST 2014
Lots of examples from EuroTalk Talk Now! Learn Klingon:
DIr QanwI' taS - suntan oil
QaDmoHwI' DIr - towel
mIllogh qonwI' qoSta' – photographic film (makes sense, because you can interpret it as "camera film")
Ho'Du' Say'moHwI' tlhagh - toothpaste (even though a toothbrush is called a Ho' teywI')
Say'moHwI' tlhagh - soap
One migh argue that a jungle gym would be a {toSwI' qal'aq} rather than a {toSmeH qa'laq} because it doesn't really help you climb. That is, if you need to climb from point A to point B, you wouldn't build a jungle gym to do it; it's a {mI'meH jan}, not a {ghoSmeH jan}.
Compare that to the structures that painters and builders set up to do work on a building's exterior. Perhaps one of those would be a {toSmeH qal'aq}?
> 28 jan 2014 kl. 16:52 skrev "Lieven" <levinius at gmx.de>:
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> Am 28.01.2014 16:28, schrieb Steven Boozer:
> > qoD QutlhwI' ngaDmoHwI'
>> Inner Support Stabilizer (KBoP)
>> [i.e. those ceiling supports flanking the captain's chair on a
>> BoP that look like large shock absorbers]
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> When I got the word for jungle gym, I noticed some interesting detail: Marc Okrand very often translates words in the pattern "x-ing device" with {x-wI' Doch}, although many times I would have thought it could be {x-meH Doch}.
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> It's not a {QutlhmeH ngaDmoHwI'}, but a {QutlhwI' ngaDmoHwI'}.
> It's not a {toSmeH qal'aq}, but a {toSwI' qal'aq}.
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> Do you have more examples of this kind?
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