[Tlhingan-hol] [tlhIngan-Hol] Star Trek Phase II - Kitumba. We need help with some Klingon terms.

[Peter Walker]

Hi everyone,

I received a couple of emails giving me suggestions. I must have listened to
that sentence at least 50 times by now. 

 

This is what I have ended up with:

"But we can carry a knife, a sword, a bat'leth, a mevak, a taj t'k, a
kut'luch, a gt'set, a ni'itzu."

 

Thanks to those that helped.

 

It would be great if you guys could work together and create Klingon
subtitles for the episode. 

You can download the English subtitles, here:

http://www.startrekphase2.de/subtitles/stp2-0408-kit-subs-american.zip 

 

 

Regards

 

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From: De'vID [mailto:de.vid.jonpin at gmail.com] 
Sent: 19 January 2014 12:44
To: tlhIngan-Hol; peter at startrekphase2.de
Subject: Re: [tlhIngan-Hol] Star Trek Phase II - Kitumba. We need help with
some Klingon terms.

 

On Jan 18, 2014 7:38 PM, "Peter Walker" <peter at startrekphase2.de> wrote:
> We have run into a problem with one small part of the script where Uhura
lists a series of Klingon weapons. We have tried hard to work it all out,
but we are not sure we got it right. That is why I have come here to ask you
Klingon experts to help us get it right.

But we're Klingon language specialists, not Klingon weapons specialists. :-)

Peter Walker:
> Any suggestions?
>
> 00:27:35,167 --> 00:27:41,451
> http://youtu.be/VJouMFIAN8Q

A direct link to the scene in question:
http://youtu.be/VJouMFIAN8Q?t=27m33s

Peter Walker:
> Script version: We can carry a knife, a sword, a bat'leth, a d'k tahg, a
kut'luch, a mek'leth, a mevak, a qhonDoq, a tajtiq...
>
> Version 1: We can carry a knife, a sword, a bat'leth, a mevak, a d'k tahg,
a kut'luch, a tajtiq, a Ni'Itzu.
>
> Version 2: We can carry a knife, a sword, a bat'leth, a mevak, a tajtiq, a
kut'luch, a gt'set, a ni'itzu.
>
> Is version 1 or 2 correct or can you suggest an even better version?

This isn't really a Klingon language question though. None of those words
are in the transcription system devised by Marc Okrand, where they would be
{betleH}, {ma'veq}, {meqleH}, {Daqtagh}, {ghonDoq}, {tajtIq}, {qutluch} (and
I'm not sure what the other two are). But they don't need to be, since the
subtitles aren't for linguists but a general audience, where ad hoc
spellings of Klingon words is de rigueur. Writing {betleH} instead of
"bat'leth" would actually be confusing to most people who are not
Klingonists.

Version 2 seems like it's the list she actually said. She did not say "d'k
tahg"/{Daqtagh}, and she said something like "gt'set" (it sounded like
"chitsit" to me) before "ni'itzu" (sounded like "neet-zoo"). But I don't
know what these are supposed to be, as they don't sound like the names of
any Klingon weapons I know. Anyone? Maybe these are from FASA or extended
canon?

Peter Walker:
> The definitive answer will be placed in the subtitles used for the
episode.

I think rather that what you put in the subtitles will become the definitive
answer.

I can't speak for the rest of this mailing list, but I'd be much more
interested in Klingon subtitles for the entire episode. I actually posted
about that earlier to this mailing list:
http://kli.org/tlhIngan-Hol/2014/January/msg00007.html

-- 
De'vID

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