[Tlhingan-hol] Bottle Opening and Drinking, al-Amarjan Style

[Lieven]

jaj 20.08.2014 16:44, ghItlh SuStel:

 > The distinction seems to be that one side of a {QemjIq} does not have 
an outlet, while a {qung} is a penetration in a barrier between one side 
and another.

jaj 20.08.2014 17:27, ghItlh Steven Boozer:
 > So {qung} seems to focus on an opening *through something* while 
{QemjIq} focuses on an opening *into something (with a bottom)*, e.g. 
bottle, hole/pit in the ground, tree hollow, vat/keg, bowls, etc.

I would not count a bottle or vat into this. I believe SuStel's 
description is better. The opening of a bottle is technically spoken no 
difference to any hole in its surrounding surface.

If you have a hole in the ground, but there is a huge cave below, then 
that hole is a {qung} which you use to enter the cave. Even tough you 
may be able to "fill" that cave.

I wouldnt say a {QemjIq} is an opening "into" something. It's more like 
the "lack of" a perfect surface. When you take a spoon of pudding, you 
have created a {QemjIq}. The skin of the pudding (you know, that dry 
milk that some people do not like) is penetrated in that case, and will 
have a {qung}.


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