[Tlhingan-hol] Fwd: Catholic priest seeks recording of prayer in Klingon

[Robyn Stewart]

I'm not Catholic and did not read the English  (I found it kind of
confusing) but the Klingon prayer was clear and made sense except for this
bit:

 

{bISop} Qel je {San 'ISIDor} 'ej nuboQ 'e' wIqoy'.  

 

The 'ej in this sentence seems misplaced. Is the sentence supposed to be:

 

nuboQ {bISop} Qel je {San 'ISIDor} 'e' wIqoy'.

 

yIghoSmoH --> tIghoSmoH

 

wIghomboghvaD - the -vaD belongs on the noun, not the verb, and shouldn't it
be DI-?

 

Review the rules for Hoch: you may find you need nuvpu' to convey the
meaning you want.

 

I like the idea, and whether through the intercession of a divine being or
not, it's a fine way to approach the internet.

 

- Qov

 

 

 

From: David Holt [mailto:kenjutsuka at live.com] 
Sent: August 14, 2014 23:07
To: tlhingan-hol at kli.org
Subject: Re: [Tlhingan-hol] Fwd: Catholic priest seeks recording of prayer
in Klingon

 

> From: a.appleyard at btinternet.com
> CC: tlhingan-hol at kli.org
> 
> ... I'm much more bothered by phrases like, "especially", "Only-begotten
son", "intercession", and "Bishop". ...
> 
> "Bishop" came from Ancient Greek "epi-skopos" = "over-looker", i.e. one
who oversees the running of the Church in his area.
 
And the award for completely missing the point goes to...
 
Anyway, let me be clear.  I do not expect a project like this to convert
anyone to Christianity and I wouldn't expect fictional Klingons to have any
interest in this.  However, I do hope there are a few members of the Roman
church that are also science fiction fans who can appreciate this and maybe
even develop an interest in tlhIngan Hol because of it.  And even if it
never converts anyone in either direction (i.e. speaker to Christ or
Christian to Hol) it was a project that I had an interest in so it could
easily inspire me to do some extra activity with the language.
 
There are probably some things in my translation that are questionable, but
I'm sure this is much better than the nonsense that's currently up there.
However, I welcome suggestions for improvement and so I offer this here
first for critique before I send it to Father Z.  Terms that the Roman
church tends to have specialized words for regardless of language have been
transliterated and marked in curly brackets.  Feel free to debate any
controversial subjects that I have stirred up, but unless you offer me an
alternative that I find acceptable, don't expect it to change the
translation that I will offer to Father Z.



weQmoQnaQDaq Surarpa' tayvam yIjatlh:

 

'o Qun'a', SoH HoS law' Hoch HoS puS 'ej reH bItaHtaH.  juchenmoH 'ej pIrur.
Hoch QaQ, Hoch teH, Hoch 'IH je DInej 'e' Dara'.  SoHvo' boghbogh puqloD neH
ghaH {yeSu' QISto''e'} 'ej Qun porgh ghaH 'ej joH'a'ma' ghaH.  ghaHDaq
QaQwI', teHwI', 'IHwI' je DInejnIS je.  {bISop} Qel je {San 'ISIDor} 'ej
nuboQ 'e' wIqoy'.  weQmoQnaQDaq malengtaHvIS ghopDu'majvaD mInDu'majvaD je
nIbelmoHbogh Dochmey neH yIghoSmoH 'ej Hoch nuv wIghomboghvaD ghoberghHa'moH
'ej ghotuvmoH.  joH'a'ma' ghaHbogh QISto'vo' wItlhob.  {'amen}.

 

 

A prayer before logging onto the internet:

 

Almighty and eternal God, who created us in Thine image and bade us to seek
after all that is good, true and beautiful, especially in the divine person
of Thine Only-begotten Son, our Lord Jesus Christ, grant, we beseech Thee,
that, through the intercession of Saint Isidore, Bishop and Doctor, during
our journeys through the internet we will direct our hands and eyes only to
that which is pleasing to Thee and treat with charity and patience all those
souls whom we encounter. Through Christ our Lord.   Amen.


Jeremy

 

 

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