[Tlhingan-hol] -vo' question

[André Müller]

However, there is one example where -vo' isn't used strictly in an only
locative meaning:

chaq SoHvo' vay' vIje' vIneH.
«Maybe I'd like to buy something from you.»

Of course one might still interpret this as "buying something away/off from
you", but it shows that it's possible (probably if a motion is still
implied, which seems also true for your sentences).

But it might still be better to render your two examples with genitive
constructions, thus linking the origin and the theme simply by
juxtaposition.

- André


2013/6/17 Fiat Knox <fiat_knox at yahoo.co.uk>

> IIRC, it's been established that -Daq and -vo' apply only to physical
> movement to or from a given location.
>
> 3.3.5 Syntactic markers
> *-Daq and -vo' are strictly locative; they refer only to motion, or
> location. They can't be used in other situations in which English uses
> "to", "in" or "from" in a metaphorical sense (eg. "I translate from English
> to Klingon"; you can't use -Daq for "to" or -vo' for "from").* [HQ
> v8n1p7], quoted here from http://teresh.tdonnelly.org/kliadd3.html
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> *Subject:* [Tlhingan-hol] -vo' question
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> Is it acceptable to use -vo' in the sense of a thing being given/taken
> from someone, such as:
>
> rewbe'pu'vo' rupmey 'Iq boS qum (The government collects too many
> taxes from the citizens.)
> DIvI' Duyvo' betleH pov Hevpu' ta' (The emperor received an excellent
> bat'leth from the Federation emissary.)
>
> Or is its meaning purely spatial, such that those example sentences
> would have to be rephrased?
>
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