<div dir="ltr"><div><div>However, there is one example where -vo' isn't used strictly in an only locative meaning:<br><br>chaq SoHvo' vay' vIje' vIneH.<span class=""><br>«Maybe I'd like to buy something from you.»<br>
<br></span></div><span class="">Of course one might still interpret this as "buying something away/off from you", but it shows that it's possible (probably if a motion is still implied, which seems also true for your sentences).<br>
<br>But it might still be better to render your two examples with genitive constructions, thus linking the origin and the theme simply by juxtaposition.<br><br></span></div><span class="">- André<br></span></div><div class="gmail_extra">
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<div><div style="font-size:12pt;font-family:garamond,new york,times,serif">IIRC, it's been established that -Daq and -vo' apply only to physical movement to or from a given location.<br><br>3.3.5 Syntactic markers<br>
<strong><strong><font color="#DD3615">-Daq</font></strong>
and <strong><font color="#DD3615">-vo'</font></strong> are
strictly locative; they refer only to
<u>motion</u>, or <u>location</u>.
They can't be used in other situations in which English uses
"to", "in" or "from" in a metaphorical sense (eg. "I translate from English to Klingon";
you can't use <strong><font color="#DD3615">-Daq</font></strong>
for "to" or <strong><font color="#DD3615">-vo'</font></strong>
for "from").</strong> [HQ v8n1p7], quoted here from <a href="http://teresh.tdonnelly.org/kliadd3.html" target="_blank">http://teresh.tdonnelly.org/kliadd3.html</a><br><br><div>+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++<br>
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Sunday, 16 June 2013, 23:17<br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> [Tlhingan-hol] -vo' question<br> </font> </div> <div><br>Is it acceptable to use -vo' in the sense of a thing being given/taken<br>
from someone, such as:<br><br>rewbe'pu'vo' rupmey 'Iq boS qum (The government collects too many<br>taxes from the citizens.)<br>DIvI' Duyvo' betleH pov Hevpu' ta' (The emperor received an excellent<br>
bat'leth from the Federation emissary.)<br><br>Or is its meaning purely spatial, such that those example sentences<br>would have to be rephrased?<br><br>_______________________________________________<br>Tlhingan-hol mailing list<br>
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