[Tlhingan-hol] Trains

Rohan Fenwick - QeS 'utlh qeslagh at hotmail.com
Thu Nov 22 18:18:08 PST 2012


ghItlhpu' Felix, jatlh:
> Aye, I'm aware of the rule; it's just not something I'd take for granted works in a relative phrase.

Ah, fair enough. I didn't think about that. I guess I gloss over it for two reasons: we know (IIRC) that if there is an {-'e'}-marked noun in a relative clause, it's the head; and (b) relative sentences aren't otherwise all that distinct from ordinary Klingon sentences. There's no morphological sign other than a little {-bogh} suffix that the sentence is anything special, so if a rule applies to main clauses, I tend to just apply it to subordinate clauses as well unless we've been told otherwise.

taH:
> In cases like {Qel'e' DaH yISam}, you can more or less think of {DaH yISam} as its own sentence,
> {Qel'e'} being a context descriptor.

Or a topic, to use TKD's term for it. True - and I think that's the case more generally for {-'e'}-marked nouns
 in header position, as the ST5 example shows: "In the galaxy, as for 
warriors, you will be greater than all others." There's been confusion in the past about whether {-'e'} is actually a topic marker or a focus marker, but from the canon it seems to me it can be either, or both, according to the context.

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