[Tlhingan-hol] muD Duj SIrgh'a'

Robyn Stewart robyn at flyingstart.ca
Thu May 31 18:53:47 PDT 2012


At 08:41 '?????' 5/31/2012, ghunchu'wI' 'utlh wrote:
>On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 5:55 PM, Robyn Stewart <robyn at flyingstart.ca> wrote:
> > Well, it's a thing pertaining to an aircraft, like a thread or 
> filament, but
> > of a greater magnitude or significance. In this case the English 
> is "cable".
>
>muD Duj mach patmey vIghovmo' SIrgh'a' Dapongbogh vIghov je.
>
> > muD DujwIjDaq SIrgh'a'mey Sar lutu'lu'. DerwI', ronwI'mey, 
> torwI', QuQmey je
> > SeH SIrgh'a'mey. nIH QuQvaD nIn SeH SIrgh'a' vIloSbogh. tlhoS ghorpu'mo'
> > SIrgh'a'vetlh, QuQvetlhvaD nIn vISeHchoHDI' jIyuvqu'nIS 'ej rut yapbe' nIn.
> > vaj SIrgh'a' chu' wIje' 'ej jom po'wI'. Qatlhqu' jommeH mIw!  DaH rInmo'
> > maQuch.
>
>wejmaH vagh ben "Apache" 'or vavwI'. DujDaj mach law' DujlIj mach puS
>'ach rurchuq qar'a'?

tlhoS nIb. Aztec vI'or. pIj "Apache" mupong muD Duj SeHwI'pu'.

>wa' jaj Hoq wItaghrup. "Mexico" wISuchtaH 'e' wInab. mataghpa', Duj
>chovlI' vavwI'. poS QuQ laQDI', SIbI' nom DIngqu'. nIn 'Iq Hevlaw'.

toH. QuQ vIlaQtaHvIS nIn 'Iq Hevchugh, Qapbe'choH. SIrgh'a' DaDelbogh 
yuv naQ qIj 'e' vIpIH. ghor SIrgh'a' SeHbogh naQwIj Doq'e'. HoS poQ 
naQ qIj 'ach DujwIjDaq nIn SeHbe'.

>'IqtaHvIS je DIngqu'taHghach Qapbe' nIn SeHwI''e'. nIn ghurlaH 'ach
>nuplaHbe'. QuQ laQHa'meH, "magneto" leQ chu'Ha'nIS.

toH, naQ Doq Daqelbej. Dajqu'. ghorbej'a' SIrgh'a'? chaq ghor nIn 
SeHwI' jan'e'.

>ghorpu' SIrgh'a'
>rap. 'ochDajDaq chevlu'pu'. yuvlaH 'ach luHlaHbe'. Do' Sum "Piper"
>laSvargh 'ej tugh SIrgh'a' Duy' qa'pu' SIrgh'a' chu'. Hoqmaj mIm wa'
>jaj neH.

SIrghmaj tammeH qaStaHvIS wa'maH rep vumqu' loHwI'ma'. jISaHtaH 'ej loQ vIboQ.

>jajvetlh lujmo' SIrgh'a' maDo'bej. ngugh loS Hu' "Chichen Itza"-Daq

vISuchta'!  vISIchmeH <<Let>> muD DujDaq vIlIgh. SeHlawDaq raSya' 
Hol, DIvI' Hol je ghItlhlu' 'ach 'eSpanya' Hol neH lujatlh 'orwI'pu'.

>mapuv. "Yucatan" pIgh wISuchtaHvIS qaSchugh, maSotbej. (toH, not
>"Maya" lIng "Piper" 'e' vItu'.)

'amerIqa' SepjIjQa' Dabbogh Sungpu''e' wIvpu' .. vaj Huj Aztec.

>On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 10:05 AM, Steven Boozer <sboozer at uchicago.edu> wrote:
> > *{SIrgh'a'} lururbogh latlh mu'mey'e':
> > [...]
> > [Suggestions for translating "(Other) Similar words include" 
> welcome.  We have {rur} "resemble" but lack the quality "be similar".
>
>Other than the obvious but easily accommodated difference in
>transitivity, what distinction in meaning do you see between
>"resemble" and "be similar"? Your translation seems fine to me, though
>I might leave off the {-bogh}.
>
>-- ghunchu'wI'
>
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