[Tlhingan-hol] "Never give up; never surrender"

[David Trimboli]

On 5/26/2012 9:28 PM, ghunchu'wI' wrote:
>
> On May 26, 2012, at 6:42 PM, David Trimboli<david at trimboli.name>
> wrote:
>
>> It's been a running gag that the line from Galaxy Quest, "Never
>> give up; never surrender," comes out in Klingon as {not yIjegh;
>> not yIjegh}.
>
> A running gag in what context?

In the context of a qep'a', when Galaxy Quest is mentioned, someone will
whip out {not yIjegh; not yIjegh}.

> I've always translated it as {not yIbup; not yIjegh!} Repeating
> {jegh} seems contrived, as it carries the wrong meaning of "give up"
> for the first phrase.

How do you determine that? "Surrender, give up" carries both 
connotations to me. Surrendering to the futility of a task or giving up 
to an enemy work just as well as surrendering to an enemy or giving up 
due to the futility of a task.

Of course repeating {jegh} sounds contrived; that's what makes it funny.

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