[Tlhingan-hol] nuq bop bom: 'ay' wa'vatlh SochmaH Soch: SanIDlogh nuHoHlaH

[Robyn Stewart]

This is influence from Russian, which also lacks the verb "to be" in the present tense and uses the verbs sit/stand/hang/lie where English would just use to be. I thought I'd try it, but as it strikes you both as wrong, I guess it doesn't work. I'm surprised. One can make a corpse sit or lie in English, too. 

-Qov

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On 2012-05-09, at 13:52, Steven Boozer <sboozer at uchicago.edu> wrote:

> Qov:
>>> chegh Hota'ro' ghutar je. yIQchu'. yIttaHvIS naQvo' HuS gheDchaj.
>>> chemvaH rur. ror 'ej pIv veD. "majQa'!" jatlh vajar. ghIq jatlh,
>>> "maja'chuqnIS." beb HeH bIngDaq gheD luQotmoH.
> 
> ghunchu'wI':
>> Unless the animal is still alive and they're letting it get some rest,
>> I believe this stretches the meaning of {Qot} past reasonable limits.
>> The "recline" meaning gives me the impression that it shouldn't apply
>> to something inanimate. 
> 
> Agreed.  FYI {Qot} "lie, recline" in canon:
> 
>  DungDaq legh 'ej QotnIStaH romuluSngan be'pu' 
>  Romulan women belong on their backs! (ST5 notes)
> 
>  QongDaqDaq Qotbe' tlhInganpu' 
>  Klingons do not lie in bed. (TKW)
> 
>  QotDI' gheD tlhejbe' wamwI' 
>  The hunter does not lie down with the prey. (TKW)
> 
>> I consider the verb to be almost the opposite of {Hu'}.
> 
> or the opposite of {Qam} "stand":
> 
>  QamvIS Hegh qaq law' torvIS yIn qaq puS 
>  Better to die on our feet than live on our knees. (ST6 & TKW)
> 
>  yIyong 'ej pa' yIQam 
>  Get in and stand there. (CK)
> 
>  Qam 
>  Stand! (PK)
> 
>  poSDaq nIHDaq je QamtaHvIS SuvwI'pu', chaH jojDaq yItnIS lopwI' 
>  The initiate must pass through a gauntlet of warriors.  (S9)
> 
> {Hu'} "get up" in canon is unhelpful:
> 
> yIHu'
> [Get up! (untranslated)] (ST3 & ST6)
> 
> 
> --
> Voragh
> Ca'Non Master of the Klingons
> 
> 
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