[Tlhingan-hol] nuq bop bom: 'ay' wa'vatlh SochmaH Soch: SanIDlogh nuHoHlaH

ghunchu'wI' 'utlh qunchuy at alcaco.net
Wed May 9 13:11:24 PDT 2012


On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 11:01 PM, Robyn Stewart <robyn at flyingstart.ca> wrote:
> chegh Hota'ro' ghutar je. yIQchu'. yIttaHvIS naQvo' HuS gheDchaj. chemvaH
> rur. ror 'ej pIv veD. "majQa'!" jatlh vajar. ghIq jatlh, "maja'chuqnIS." beb
> HeH bIngDaq gheD luQotmoH.

Unless the animal is still alive and they're letting it get some rest,
I believe this stretches the meaning of {Qot} past reasonable limits.
The "recline" meaning gives me the impression that it shouldn't apply
to something inanimate. I consider the verb to be almost the opposite
of {Hu'}.

> jatlh vajar, "yaSpu'wI', *veS* ghu'
> wIlajlaHtaHbe'. Seng boSov. wIyuDHa'chu' 'ach nupumtaH qImyal Sa'. quvHa'bej
> ghaH. *Dugh* tI'lu'meH Qo'noS wISIchnIS. chay' mavang 'e' bochup?"

(Ooh, nice Question As Object. I think it works perfectly.)

> qechmey
> ghaj vajar 'ach yaSpu'Daj vuDmey Qoy neH. yIQmo' vajar jIb, jatlhtaHvIS
> mongDechDaq 'elltaH bIQ. jIbDaj lIS.[194]

'Iq <'elltaH> l-mey.

> qevpobvo' jIbDaj yIQ bI' ghutar. qoghDaj bID 'ang.[265] jatlh, "batlh
> mavangnIS.

tlhoS qon'egh ghutar vub.

> batlhHa' vangba'pu' qImyal Sa' 'ach tlhIngan ghaH. tlhIngan batlh
> neHqu' Hoch tlhIngan tIq. lajmeH 'eb poQ neH. machun 'e' wItobchu'.

leghmeH ghutar, reH batlh mInDu' lo'. jaS leghlaH latlh mInDu':
DIvwI'pu' valqu' chaH net chovlaH.

> loSmaHlogh maHDaq nejlaH 'ej loSmaHlogh pagh Sam. Qo'noS wIghoSmeH poQ jaj
> 'ar?"

<jaj 'ar poQ?>

> jatlh Hota'ro', "pIvlob Soch vI' vagh lo'lu'chugh wa'maH jaj poQ."
>
> jatlh ghutar, "qaStaHvIS wa'maH jaj maloS. matay'taH. mavoqchuqtaH.
> maHubchuqruptaH. Sa' pIlmoHjaj quvmaj. nuq qaSlaH?"

<qaSlaH nuq?>

> jatlh Hota'ro', "nuHoHlaH. SuvwI' quv Ho'be' qImyal. woQDaj SachmoHlaHbogh
> nuv'e' neH Ho'. ghutar, ghaytan bIHay'taHvIS, chIch jatlh DuyDaj <ghIqtal>.

I'm going to have to concentrate to stop thinking of "puppet" as a
valid translation of {Duy}.

> nuHoHnISbe' qImyal.

qImyal Sa' vuvHa'qu'taH Hota'ro', patlh lo'taHQo'vIS.

> nuqaDlaHtaH Duypu'Daj. bong nuHoHlaH jol. qaStaHvIS wa'
> ram loS SanIDlogh nuHoHlaH pagh nutojlaH."
>
> <jatlh 'e' mev> 'oSbogh ghop Hol lo' vajar

(This seemed a very natural description of events. It was only on my
second reading, looking for typos, that I considered that it might
have been a way to avoid having to describe the hand motion.)

> ghIq tlhup. jatlh "jol vIQoylI'."
> 'IjmeH mev latlhpu'.
> "vIQoybe', HoD," jatlh ghutar.
> "SIS neH 'e' vIQoy," jatlh Hota'ro'.

QapHa'choH'a' vajar QoymoHwI'mey?

> qo' yIQ bejqu' vajar 'ach pagh nub legh. HurghchoH. teSDajDaq vIngtaH. ghur
> wab. "DaH vIQoychoH!" jatlh ghutar. QoymoHwI'meymo' vajar teS QaQ law'
> SuvwI' Qup teS QaQ puS! ghIq jatlh ghutar, "SoHvo' vIQoy. QoymoHwI'meylIj
> tIteq." teqDI' loj wab. QoymoHwI' 'IjDI' ghutar, 'ol. "chaq yIQmo'," jatlh.

chuSHa'moHmeH lISlaHjaj jonwI'.

-- ghunchu'wI'



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