[Tlhingan-hol] nuq bop bom: 'ay' wa'vatlh SochmaH wa': pIHpu'

Qov robyn at flyingstart.ca
Thu May 3 14:12:12 PDT 2012


At 13:30 '?????' 5/3/2012, you wrote:
>On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 12:20 PM, Qov <robyn at flyingstart.ca> wrote:
> > "jISov," jatlh vajar. "meHDaq bIQongchoHDI' <qatlh bIj Daqotlh> jIjatlh 'ej
> > bIjangDI' jIQeHchoH. Daqaw'a'?"[64]
>
>maHvaD nI' poH. juqawmoH 'e' vItlho'.

Daqotlhbej. lut vIqonlI'. qawmeH qaD vIqonbe'.

> > jatlh Hota'ro', "HIja', HoD. Hoch DuHmey vIqelta'DI' meqlIj vIloypu'."
> > jatlh vajar, "DuHvetlh Daperchugh ngugh chay' jIvang 'e' DapIH?"
> > jatlh Hota'ro', "chomup 'e' vIpIH."
>
>yuDHa'bej.

wanI'vetlhvaD murur Hota'ro'. vIqaDlu'DI' jIqarchu' vIneH.  De' Qoy 
neH yu'wI' vIqel 'e' vIlIjchu'. ghelbogh mu'mey neH vIqel.  'oHmo' 
wej vIqIplu' 'ach tlhoS.

> > jatlh vajar, "vaj qatlh bIjatlh?"
> > jatlh Hota'ro', "cha' Qu' potlh vIghaj. Duj vItoy'nIS 'ej HoD vIlobnIS.
> > tlhochchuqchugh Duj vItoynIS 'ach ... Qu'wIj vIta'chu'chugh ram bIj."
>
><vItoynIS> qaghwI' chIllu'pu'.
>
>ngaj pojpu'meH poHwIj 'ach jaS jIwuq. rut HoD vangmoH Sov le'
>'anglaHbe'bogh. Duj ngoQ tlhochlaw'chugh HoD, roD HoD lobnISlu'. ngup
>vIvoq, vIvoqbe'nISmeH meq vItu'pa'.  pImba' be'vam ghob.

Daj. pIj ngup voqlaHbogh qIHpu'chugh Hota'ro' chaq jaS ghobDaj.

> > jatlh ghutar, "Hung mIw mub 'oHbe'. 'a ra'ta'mo' HoD'e' HeSbe' jeSwI'pu'.
> > quvHa''eghmoHbej 'ach Hatbe'." bIj wIvlaH HoD 'ej DIbvetlh nISlaHbe' ngup.
>
>qalmoH HoS net tob.

rurbogh vIttlhegh Sov'a' tlhInganpu'?

> > jatlh vajar, "qatlh cha'Hu' chobDaq gharon DaHoHbe'ta'? DuQorghbe'bej!"
> >
> > jatlh Hota'ro', "pIch ghajbe'. lobbe'pu'chugh ..." mu'tlhegh rInmoHbe'
> > Hota'ro' 'ach naSba'mo' qImyal, 'utbe'. jatlh Hota'ro', "vIvup 'ej vImuS.
> > QIpmo' mu'meyDaj, vI'oy'moH."
>
>mu'mey QIpbe' SamlaH'a' vay'?

bIlughchu'. 'ay'vetlh vIqontaHvIS reH QIpmo' gharon mu'mey vIchoHnISpu'.

> > chollI'bogh tlhIngan be' legh vajar.. Hurghqu' DIrDaj. HIp tuQbe'taH 'ach
> > SomrawDu' HoS 'ang yIvbeHDaj nov. tlhIngan yopwaH tuQtaH 'ej jIbDaj tIqDaq
> > tI law' [262] leghlaH vajar.
>
>qaSba'pu' wa' wanI' tuj. ghaytan varSajIy rI'ta'. chaq wa'logh Suchpu'
>Qel, 'ach qItbe' DIch.

chaq qIt. pawDI' tlhIngan Duj chach maq Mahoun beq 'ej vajar vemmoH 
Saqghom chutmey. ngugh Qongqa' vajar 'ej qaStaHvIS jaj naQ leStaH.

> > jatlh be', "yuQvam Dab wa' tlhIngan neH. 'eSSIm jIH. vajar HoD SoHba'.
> > Sotlaw'rajmo' qaghov, 'ej murI' Qugh Qel." yaS wa'DIchDaj, 
> HungpInDaj je lIH
> > vajar.
>
>yaS wa'DIch gheSta' Hota'ro', tlhoS 'e' vIlIj. wej DujDajDaq toy'laH.

Dugh Dotlhmo' tugh qaSbe'.

> > jatlh 'eSSIm, "Ha'. matlhutlhjaj lutraj boja'taHvIS." DevchoH 'ej tugh
> > qachDaj machDaq ba'taH ghom, HIq ngaSbogh HIvje'mey 'uchtaHvIS. lutmey
> > ja'choH vajar.
>
>{ja'} with an object other than the person being addressed still
>bothers me. I'll probably get over it eventually.

Some things have to be said.  Maybe it was manufactured as a 
screwdriver, but it's labelled "chisel" in my toolkit.

> > rewbe' ghaHmo' 'op QI' De' nopnIS 'ach bepbe' 'eSSIm.
>
>rewbe' ghaH je mang'e' qar'a'?

HIja', chaq muSIgh ben Quj.  pa' muvDI' vay' rewbe' ghaH 'ej 
tlhetlhDI' patlh chav. chaq muSIgh "citizen", "civilian" je 
rurchuqghach.  DaH {mang ghaHbe'mo'} vIghItlh.

>I'm guessing you want to say "civilian". All I can suggest for that is
>the verb equivalent of "non-soldier". {mang ghaHbe'mo'...}

... wa' DoS wIqIp.

> > Hoch lutmey qImqu'.
> > tlhaQDI' Hagh. SeyDI' nogh 'ej jach. HIq qangtaH 'ej Hoch yaS vuvqu'.
> > ta'meychaj naD 'ej Ho'. qatlh QI' muvbe'ta' 'eSSIm? SIv vajar 
> 'ach tlhobbe'.
>
>'eSSIm quvHa'ghachDaj So'nISbe'. vajar nuQ 'e' vIHon.

vajar vav, SoS joq ngu'laHbe'mo' vajar, chay' latlh nuv vavmo' 
beplaH? bIQ'a'Daq Qal je 'eSSIm no'.

> > may' bommey bom 'ej tlhIngan chaH. Quchqu'law' 'eSSIm. vajar parHa' 'e' noH
> > vajar.
>
>Uh-oh.

Slave LakeDaq Haghqu'mo' Qov, ghelmeH yev Qov yaH qoch. vajar DaSovqu'choH.

- Qov 




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