[Tlhingan-hol] A little bit of new canon from Maltz

Felix Malmenbeck felixm at kth.se
Mon Mar 26 07:57:32 PDT 2012


Here ya go:

paq'batlh, paq'raD, canto 23:

ngIq tonSaw' lo' 'ej tIqDu' lel
ngIq tonSaw' lo' 'ej quvqa'
ngIq tonSaw' lo' 'ej rIn may'

In one single move, he removed the hearts,
In one single move, he restored his honor,
In one single move, the battle was done.


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From: Steven Boozer [sboozer at uchicago.edu]
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2012 15:26
To: tlhingan-hol at stodi.digitalkingdom.org
Subject: Re: [Tlhingan-hol] A little bit of new canon from Maltz

Thanks for the {paq'batlh} quote, a version of which had appeared previously in the {'u'} libretto:

  ngIq tonSaw' lo' 'ej...
  in one single move, he... ('U'-OPERA)

(And, no, I don't have the complete line in my notes.)


--
Voragh
Ca'Non Master of the Klingons


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Felix Malmenbeck [mailto:felixm at kth.se]
>
> It's worth noting that this isn't how I would've interpreted the term
> prior to that e-mail regarding "The Final Reflection"; since the gloss
> was simply "fighting technique", I would've either interpreted it as a
> specific Klingon martial art, or to any martial art (as a whole).
>
> However, we get some further confirmation in paq'batlh:
>
> ngIq tonSaw' lo'
> SaD law' San chenmoH qeylIS
> wej boghbogh nuvpu' San chenmoH
>
> "In one single move,
> Kahless decided the fate
> Of thousands, and those to come."
>
> ________________________________________
> From: Felix Malmenbeck [felixm at kth.se]
>
> I interpret tonSaw' as an individual move in a fight or game.
> "reflection" is a game move used in some variants of klin zha, and
> Marc Okrand suggested calling it neSlo' tonSaw: "the mirror move"
>
> ________________________________________
> From: Lieven Litaer [lieven.litaer at web.de]
>
> Going through some very old emails, I found this (scroll down for the
> entire message):
>
>  > Here's what Maltz has come up with [...]  > The "The Final
> Reflection," [...] if "reflection,"
>  > as in "image in a mirror" is needed, he offered  > neSlo' tonSaw'
> Qav.
>
> I don't remember any more comments about this. Do I understand
> correctly, that this is an extention of the meaning of {tonSaw'} to
> "reflection"?
>
> Might this work?
>     {bIQ tonSaw'Daq qalegh}
>     "I see you in the reflection of the water"
>
> Lieven.
>
>
>
> Am 01.09.2010 21:06, schrieb qurgh lungqIj:
> > At the qep'a' this year I asked Marc to ask Maltz for a few
> > translations for the Klingon Christmas Carol play.
> >
> > This morning he sent me a message, and while there aren't any new
> > words per se, I thought I'd share it with the group.
> >
> > -----------------------------------
> > Here's what Maltz has come up with. He offers you choices!
> >
> > The "The Final Reflection," he suggests tonSaw' Qav "final fighting
> > technique," since "reflection" is a maneuver in a game (is Maltz
> right
> > about that?). But if "reflection," as in "image in a mirror" is
> > needed, he offered neSlo' tonSaw' Qav.
> >
> > For "apathy" and "corruption," since they're animals pulled out of a
> > pocket, he went with:
> >
> > "apathy" (or "apathy creature") - SaHHa'wI' "one who is not
> concerned"
> > or pIlHa'wI' "unmotivated one"
> >
> > "corruption" (or "corruption creature") - quvHa'wI' "dishonored one"
> >
> > If it works better to to have concepts rather than beings/animals
> for
> > these words, he offered:
> >
> > "apathy" SaHHa'ghach ("disinterest")
> > "corruption" quvHa'ghach ("dishonor")
> > -----------------------------------
> >
> > We went with neSlo' tonSaw' Qav for the title of the book, since
> > "reflection", in this case, refers to version of klinzha that is
> > played with a mirror.
> >
> > qurgh
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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