[Tlhingan-hol] Facebook Translation Project [FTP]: weekdays

[Felix Malmenbeck]

I've always been in favor of keeping it in line with the ISO standard; it's the most global standard, and those familiar with Klingon are most probably familiar with it.
Of course, anyone familiar with Klingon is also likely familiar with English, so one could certainly use the English words. I just don't like the look of it, personally.

Since we'll probably never get canonical names for them, and since their canonicity doesn't really strike me as very important (they're not real Klingon words, anyway), perhaps rather than wait around for them we should try to develop a consensus and maybe pass an "official KLI list of non-official weekday names" that we can use when a project like this comes along? It'd sure make things a lot easier.

Come to think of it, perhaps the KLI should work actively to coin terms for everyday Terran things; a semi-official <Human Soj mu'mey ru' tetlh> (mu'mey ru' because new words may reveal better ways to describe things). Marc's never going to have the time to sit down and name every Terran fruit and animal, and we'd much rather have him coining more interesting mu'mey chu', anyway, so why not take care of that ourselves?

For anyone who's interested, here's one old discussion on naming the days: http://www.klingon.org/smboard/index.php/topic,1600.0.html

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From: Lieven Litaer [lieven.litaer at web.de]
Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 22:08
To: tlhingan-hol at kli.org
Subject: [Tlhingan-hol] Facebook Translation Project [FTP]: weekdays

I'll just call it like that, we will have many more topics to discuss.

As some people might know, Facebook is available in many languages, and
a few people are working on the Klingon translation. Every member of
Facebook can contribute.

We have arrived to an interesting question, which can probably not be
solved clearly, but Im interested in your opinions anyway.

We need to translate the weekdays, and there is an obvious and nice
suggestion to do this with {jaj wa'}, {jaj cha'} and so on.

Now the problem is, WHICH is day one?

Here some facts:
- in the Americas (so not only the USA) Sunday is day one.
- some other languages, like Arabic, also start their week with Sunday.
- Most european languages (like german) start their week with monday
(that's why Sat+Sun is called "weekend", not "Fri+Sat")
- According to the Islamic and Hebrew calendars, Sunday is the first day
of the week. [Wikipedia]
- According to international standard ISO 8601 Monday is the first day
of the work week. [Wikipedia]
- Garfield hates Mondays ;-)
- There is a canon (is it?) invitation to the startrek Exhibition using
{jaj wa'} for "Sunday".

Next problem: if we decide to follow any of the possible numbering
systems, how does *any* user from Japan, Germany, Panama or Brazil know
which system has been chosen?

Since this latter problem might never be solved, I'd suggest to leave
the weekdays untranslated until we have official names for them (which I
doubt, since klingons certainly do not have a seven-day week, but who
knows? ;-)

Greetings,
   Lieven.




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