[Tlhingan-hol] nuq bop bom: 'ay' cha'vatlh wej: toy'wI''a' QaQ

ghunchu'wI' 'utlh qunchuy at alcaco.net
Mon Jun 18 11:31:10 PDT 2012


On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 8:58 PM, Qov <robyn at flyingstart.ca> wrote:
> 203: toy'wI''a' QaQ

Saj Dotlh ghajlaw'. <Su', toy'wI''a' QaQ 'Iv?>

> jatlh Qa'bar, "DaHeSbe'pu'mo'.

ghelbogh mu'mey, jangbogh mu' je luchevlu'. 'ach Summo' nungbogh 'ay',
ghaytan qay'be' jangwI' bID mu'tlheghvam mob.

> *lotlhwI'*Daq 'urtaH Hung tamey leHtaHbogh
> 'avwI''e' 'e' tu' qImyal. tamey choHlaw'ta'mo' 'urwI' HeSmey So'laH.

Hung HotlhwI' Duy' QIjlaw'.

> Do'Ha'
> yu'laHpa' qImyal, HoH'egh maghwI'.

quvHa'taH, 'ach tuHpa' Hegh.

> qama' lI'be' SoHmo', toy'wI''a'wI'
> qamojmoH. bISay'moHlaH. juHwIj tI Da'IHmoHlaH. bIbom 'e' luQoymeH muSuch nuv
> law'.

nuq bop bom? (jItuv, jItuv...)

> Do'Ha' DIvI' rojmab wIqI'DI', 'anDorngan Darurmo' qapollaHbe'.
> 'anDorngan SoH 'e' luHarmo' SuchwI'pu'wI', mab vIbIvlaw'[287].

{-law'} really ought to be indicating uncertainty on the part of the
speaker. There should be a better way to express
appearances/perceptions.

> vaj
> 'anDorngan qama'pu' nge'meH pawDI' 'anDorngan Duj, ghomvetlhvaD qatlhejmoH.
> juH bopbogh De' potlh'e' SovlaHmo' toywI''a', bImejpa' yablIjvo' poH naQ qIl
> tuQDoq chamwI' 'e' vIra'."

toy'taHvIS Quch pagh Quchbe', chaq not 'e' Sovchu'.

> jatlh Mahoun, "qatlh tlhIngan Hol vIlIjbe'pu'?"
>
> jatlh Qa'bar, "QeD vISovbe'. wanI'mey'e' Daqawbe'moH tuQDoq. jaS Hol polmo'
> QoghIj, Hol SIghbe'law' tuQDoq. ghaytan wejwa'mey, pIwmey je DaghovlaH je."

tlhIngan Hol Sov. tlhIngan Soj tIv. tlhIngan be' pIw parHa'qu'.

> tamtaH Mahoun, De' chu' qeltaHvIS. ghIq loQ HaghchoH. jatlh, "wej DIS
> wanI'mey qIlta' tuQDoq 'ach wej DIS tlhIngan Soj QaQ qIlbe'pu'."

(jIja'pu' tIq ghoDlu'pu'bogh vISopDI' vItIvQo'. qaStaHvIS wej jaj
jIyIntaHmeH Soj nov vISopnISchugh, chaq choH vuDwIj.)

> rotlhmoHwI'qoq QIjpu'. DaH Hujbe' je Mahoun Sov, Hol laH je 'ach taQtaH
> Qa'bar lut. toy'wI''a' neHbe'choHDI' vay', roD HoH pagh ngev. qatlh yInmeH
> Mahoun SuDpu' Qa'bar?

batlh vangba' Qa'bar. vIvoqqanglaw'.

> Duj choltaHmo' Du' Ha'DIbaHmey

<Duj> noplu'chugh mu'tlhegh Dublu' 'e' vIchup. Do we have an example
of {chol} as a transitive verb?

> ghum HaSta. jatlh Qa'bar, "Duj vISaqnISqa'.
> Sajolta'DI' nom vISaqta'. povbe' Daqvam." 'et ghoS.

It took me much longer to understand this than it should have. I
wasn't expecting {Duj vISaqnISqa'} in the context of a ship that was
currently on the ground.

> bejchuq 'eSSIm Mahoun je. tlhaymey Hutlh Qa'bar yIvbeH'e' tuQtaHbogh Mahoun.
> ghaH nIH DeS rIQbe' yachchoH 'eSSIm. 'IHmoH tlhIngan yIvbeH. jatlh 'eSSIm,
> "bIpIv'a'?"

tlhaQ. mu'mey chIm jatlhchoHlaw'.

> mon Mahoun 'ej 'eSSIm cholqu'.

That's another transitive {chol} in case you decide it's worth changing.

> jatlh, "HIja'." DeSDajDaq bej'egh. tlhupchoH.

(If {bej} is to {legh} the way {'Ij} is to {Qoy}, then I should stop
worrying about {bej} not matching "look at" well enough.)

> jatlh, "yuQwIjDaq HItlhej. De' lellu'DI' bISaH vIneH."
>
> "DaH vIlel vIneH. naDev'e'," jatlh 'eSSIm. tlhup je.

maj. pup. DaH naDev SaHtaH Qa'bar, 'ej ghaH'e' Hev QIn net Hech.

> jatlh, "Qa'barvaD neH
> QInvetlh ngeHlu'ta'. wItlhapchugh maH, tlhIngan yejquv DevwI' QIn wInIHta'.
> maghwI' vIDa vIneHbe'. chaq tlhIngan SoHbe'mo' DayajlaHbe'." matlhchu'
> 'eSSIm 'e' cha' neHqu'.

chaq 'eSSIm'e' ghaHbe'mo' yajbe'.

> jatlh Mahoun, "chaq porghlIjDaq 'oHbe'mo' DayajlaHbe' SoH jay'!"

wo' toy'meH 'eSSIm Somraw' pe'qangchu' 'e' vIpIH.

> jatlh 'eSSIm, "Mahoun, qatlh bIbepqu'? DaSIQlaHba'. DaHjaj HomDu'lIj
> vIghorlaw'pu'DI' bIQaltaH! DaH yeblIj 'oy' law' DIr SIjnISlu'bogh 'oy' puS.
> bIyoHqu'. yIghel neH. chaq SaHbe'." Qorwaghvo' SaqlI' Duj 'e' leghlaH
> 'eSSIm. tamchoH 'ej Mahoun Hotbe'choH, 'ach MahounvaD qoy'taH mInDu'Daj.

HeQbe'chugh Mahoun, chaq joy'taH mInDu'vetlh.

> cheghDI' Qa'bar, purqu' Mahoun. jatlh, "qaH ... De' DaSuqmeH DeSwIj
> Dape'ta''a'?"

tugh mejpu' *veS*, qar'a'? nom wuqchugh Mahoun, chaq HaqlaH 'aplo'
So'ta'bogh Qel'e'.

> [287] Even Klingon politicians have to be careful not be seen retaining
> illegal aliens as domestic workers. :P

Illegal aliens. qabwIj So' tochwIj.

-- ghunchu'wI'



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