I've found a couple of phrases in KGT that unquestionably use -pu' as perfect tense instead of perfective aspect. One of them is {nIn Hoch natlhlu'pu'} "all the fuel has been consumed." Another is {Dujmey law' chIjpu'} "has navigated many ships." I was just skimming, not doing an exhausted check. -- SuStel http://www.trimboli.name/