[Tlhingan-hol] nuq bop bom: 'ay' cha'vatlh cha'maH jav: tojbogh to'

ghunchu'wI' 'utlh qunchuy at alcaco.net
Tue Jul 24 10:25:17 PDT 2012


poHwIj lunatlhpu' qoq Qu'mey, yaH Qu'mey, muD Dotlh je. QIt lut
vIlaDba'lI'. Dojbe' SerwIj Do.

On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 12:44 PM, Qov <robyn at flyingstart.ca> wrote:
> 226
> tojbogh to'

toj 'Iv? 'Iv toj?

> yev Qoreq. jatlh, «jonwI' jolpa' bIngDaq maHtaH. manarghDI' neghvetlh 'emDaq
> Sajol.»

HubtaH neghvetlh qar'a'? qaStaHvIS jaj law' lut vIbuSbe'.

nIvbej «» jatlhwI' Deghmey. Qapjaj jabbI'ID cha'wI'lIj.

> «majQa'», jatlh vajar. neghvetlh lujeyta'DI' jonwI' choQ lujonmeH
> lotlhwI'pu' He rap lughoSlaH.[268]

qID vItu'be'. «jonwI'» bop'a'?

> lo'laH lojmIt

(tugh Qaghvam lughmoHghach vIjuS 'e' vItul.)

> ngaQHa'moH Qoreq 'ej pa'
> bejmeH loQ poSmoH. HurDaq be' ghogh Qoy vajar.

Do' QaptaH QoymoHwI'meyDaj.

> poSchoHchu' lojmIt 'ej Qoreq
> 'uchchoH vay' 'ej 'ochvo' luHchoH.
>
> «Qoreq! chay'?» jatlh be'. 'och wovmoH Sech tIH 'ej lIS'eghpu'DI' vajar
> mInDu', qaH'eng legh. ochvo' yongHa' ghom.

mach qo'. jupHey lutu'.

> Quchbe'law' Qoreq. jatlh, «qatlh jolpa'Daq SoHtaH?»
>
> jatlh qaH'eng, «chay' naDev SuSaH tlhIH? bangwI'!» Hota'ro' 'uchchoH
> qaH'eng.

jupna''e' tu'.

> «SIbI' maQolnIS», jatlh vajar. may' to'chaj QIj. Hung jIH lIS qaH'eng. veQ
> lI' ngaSbogh choQ cha' HaSta, 'ach pa' SuvtaHbe' tlhachmey. rInlaw' may'.
> lommeyvo' beHmey, nIch[266] je boSlI' vajar lopno' jaHbe'pu'bogh tlhIngan
> negh law''e'.

lujpu''a' QuD? vajarvaD beqDajvaD je Qobqu' ghu'.

> va. tlhoy paS rep. ghIq Hung HaStaDaq QaS ra'wI' legh vajar.
> Doqqu' wa' mIn 'ej Sachpu' Dechbogh DIr. veDDIr tuQtaH. vajar lopno'Daq
> 'avwI' lujonta'bogh ghaH. mangghom ghIrta'.

**
«yIrta'» DaghItlhHa''a'?

> ja'chuq ghaH ya 'ay' Sogh je.
> QamtaH je lopno' mebpu', joqwI' qembogh loD je. may'vetlhvaD Qapta' quv.

vaj lujpu'be'. wej Qapchu'pu' 'ach wej lujpu'.

**
If you just mean "honor won that battle", you don't need the {-vaD}. I
see a valid reason to keep the current phrasing, though.

> jatlh qaH'eng «SaghochlI' 'ej meH boghoSlaw'lI'. bangwI',
> bIvIHbe'choHlaw'DI' pa' vIHotlh. pa'vetlhDaq lommey neH lutu'lu'.»

toH! Hota'ro''e' ghochbe'pu'. Hota'ro' meb Degh neH ghochpu'.

> tojbogh
> to' Del Hota'ro'. Qapta'mo' to' bel vajar. tojlI' je qaH'eng. qImyal QaS
> matlh botmeH lojmItmey ngaQmoHtaH. ghu' yajbe'meH meH, QumwI' pat muntaH.

**
chaq «nIS» QaQ law' «mun» QaQ puS.

> Hung pat luSorghlaw'ta'mo' je lotlhwI'pu', Dat leghlaHbe' qaH'eng

**
I know what {Dat leghlaHbe'} is intended to mean, and I want it to
mean that too, but I'm not completely sure it does. If we can negate
entire sentences with {-be'}, it's fine. Otherwise, it probably would
need to be {'op Daqmey leghlaHbe'}.

> 'ach
> Qaplaw'lI' lotlhwI'pu'. patmey Sorghta' lotlhwI' neH 'e' Har ngaH. patmeyDaj
> QIH 'e' ngIlmo' vay' qejqu' ngaH. Sengmey tI'meH pa' pImDaq vumlI' ngaH.
> tI'lI' je qaH'eng 'e' Har ngaH.

toH, law' tojwI' 'ej law' to'.

> jatlh qaH'eng, «Qoreq, vajar lopno' DajaH
> DaneHDI' loQ chomer 'ej DaH DatoDta'. qanoHHa'pu', SuvwI'!»

nuq 'Iv ghap toDta'? vajar toD'a'? lopno' toD'a'? Hota'ro' toD'a'?

> tlho' lajqangbe' Qoreq. jatlh, «DujvaD Qu' vIta'taH.»
>
> jatlh vajar, «qaH'eng, QapmeH QuD, jonwI' choQ wISeHnIS. pIQIH wIneHbe' ...»

nuv quv buQtaH'a' vajar?

-- ghunchu'wI'



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