[Tlhingan-hol] nuq bop bom: 'ay' wa'vatlh wejmaH wej: <qama' mIwmey>

[Rohan Fenwick - QeS 'utlh]

jIjatlhpu':
> Makes sense. If that's the case, then in order to say that you cover
> X with Y, you'd have to say {X velmeH Y vIlo'} or {Y-vaD X vIvelmoH};
mujang De'vID, jatlh:
> I think you mean {X-vaD Y vIvelmoH}?

jIH:
> Nope.

De'vID:
> *mind blown*

{{:)

> Maybe I can translate this line like so:
> It is imperative that we act now to support the Gorkon initiative, lest
> more conservative elements persuade his Empire that it is better to
> attempt a military solution and die fighting.
> ghorqon jInmol'a' wIlajnIS 'ej wInumnIS. DaH mavangbe'chugh, wo'DajvaD
> qechvam luHarmoH choHqangbe'wI'pu': SuvtaHvIS Hegh qaq law' yIn qaq
> puS.

Yep, that seems to work.

> I wonder if {pon} works the same way as {HarmoH} (i.e., {vay'vaD qech pon})?

Interesting question. My first instinct from the glosses "persuade, convince"
would be that the natural object of {pon} would be the person, but I don't
know how you could add a complement if that were true. Do we have any canon
examples?

QeS 'utlh