[Tlhingan-hol] qo''e' tu'bogh pagh - 'ay' loS

[De'vID jonpIn]

De'vID:
> > Dor ghu'vam'e' luDIllaHbe'bogh tlhInganpu'.
> > boQDu': *Bill*, 'ejyo' wIpujqu'moH 'e' wIchup'a'?

QeS 'utlh:
> I don't think {wIpujqu'moH} is quite right. They're not talking about
> weakening Starfleet - to me mothballing it implies putting it away more
> or less completely, because it's become obsolete. Actually, what about
> {wInotlhmoH}?

I'm not sure that {notlhmoH} has that meaning. {notlhmoH} sounds like one
is making something obsolete, for example, making the Enterprise A obsolete
by developing a faster/more powerful starship, or making warfare obsolete
by rendering it uneconomical.  As you said, mothballing something means
it's already obsolete, so {notlhmoH} doesn't apply.

Maybe {notlhmo' ...} but I can't think of a word for "store, put in
storage".

De'vID:
> > CARTWRIGHT: jImorghnIS.  DIvI' logh qoDDaq wunHa'choH tlhInganpu' 'e'
> > wIchaw'chugh vaj maHoH'egh.

QeS 'utlh:
> tlhIngan Hol Monopoly wot 'oH'a' {wun}'e'? vIghovbe'qu' jIH.

Yes, it means "be vulnerable, be unprotected" based on the two instances of
where it's used (warning, the two sentences are right below, skip ahead if
you don't want to see them -- I'm including them for context in case you
want to comment on my use of {wunHa'}):

{Dumer DIvI' QaS 'ej DuHIv, vaj bIwunchoH 'ej bIrIQchoH.} "Surprise attack
by Federation leaves you unprotected and damaged."

{DuHIv jagh Dangu'laHbe'bogh, vaj bIwunchoH 'ej bIpujchoH.} "Attack by
unknown enemy leaves you vulnerable and weak."

De'vID:
> > qIbDaq nov veQ lumoj tlhInganpu'. 'ej 'ejyo' wIlaghchugh, yermaj DanDI'
> > mut vaQ[2] maHub'eghlaHbe'.

QeS 'utlh:
> {mut vaQ} is fine, though {vaQ} also has strongly positive connotations
> in slang (see KGT p.67). If you want to avoid that, {ral} "be violent"
> might be a good recast.

{ral} is better.  Done.

De'vID:
> > tormoHmeH 'eb 'oH 'ebvam'e'.  ghIq mab wIqon 'e' wIpoQmeH HoSmaj QaQ
> > law' HoSchaj QaQ puS.[3]

QeS 'utlh:
> This is hard, and I think you've captured the essence of it pretty well.
> {ghIq} should probably go before {HoSmaj QaQ law'...}, but other than that
> it looks okay.

I still think it should be "better than now" rather than "better than
them", but I'll leave it as is until I think of a better way to express
this.

De'vID:
> > DoS'e' qIpbogh *Cartwright* 'aj vIqIp[5] 'e' raDlu'.[6]

QeS 'utlh:
> Again, inventive. Personally I'd steer clear of {'e' X-lu'} though. {net
> X} is perfectly acceptable for this.

Okay, changing to {net raD}.  But what about the {DoS'e' qIpbogh
*Cartwright* 'aj} part?

Thanks again for your comments!

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