[Tlhingan-hol] wutlh Ha'DIbaH jaj

David Trimboli david at trimboli.name
Fri Feb 3 08:29:53 PST 2012


On 2/3/2012 11:16 AM, Felix Malmenbeck wrote:
>
>>> pawpu' poH tujchoH jajmey.
>> This is difficult to parse, although I know what you mean. I might
>> say
>
> I'm also skeptical towards using paw to refer to periods of time.
> While one could regard a season as an event, and events seem to be
> okay as locations (consider may'meyDajvo' Haw'be' tlhIngan and
> may'Daq jaHDI' SuvwI' juppu'Daj lonbe'), it seems like a bit of a
> stretch to me. Recall that in Klingon, -Daq and -vo' refer only to
> spatial relations, not more abstract concepts (such as "in Klingon"
> or "in love and war"), and not to points in time (such as "QISmaS jaj
> vaghDIchDaq jIHvaD nob ngeH bangna'wI': VAAAAAAAGH QEEEEEEEBMEEEEY
> WAAAAAGH!"*). It does not seem unlikely that this would extend also
> to verbs describing spatial changes; a jaj does not paw, nor does it
> mej, nor is it ever Sum or Hop (except perhaps in poetry).

wa'Hu' ram Steven Pinker paq, "The Stuff of Thought: Language as a 
Window into Human Nature," vIlaDchoHpu'. poH wanI' joq DIyajmeH, Daq 
Doch joq lo' yabmaj 'e' QIj. ram Hol lo'lu'bogh; mIwvam lo' Hol 
lo'laHbogh Hoch Human.

'ach pImbej tlhIngan yab Human yab je. chaq yabchajDaq pIm wanI'mey 
Daqmey Dochmey je.

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