[Tlhingan-hol] Ha'DIbaH pong chu': la'SIv

[Felix Malmenbeck]

Yeah, I know, I was being a bit naughty with that translation, but I figured as long as I was replacing the actual animal with one from a different planet (and a hare with a targ), I might take that extra liberty ;)

> Wikipedia tells me, however, that perhaps American English uses
> "turtle" as a catch-all for sea-turtles, tortoises, and terrapins, so
> perhaps {la'SIv} is equally broad as well:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turtle#Turtle.2C_tortoise.2C_or_terrapin

Swedish is similarly broad: We call them all "sköldpaddor" (literally "shield toads"; compare with German "Schildkröte"). Tortoises are "landsköldpaddor", sea turtles are "havssköldpaddor", teenage mutant ninja turtles are "tonårsmutantninjasköldpaddor", and so forth.


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From: De'vID [de.vid.jonpin at gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2012 11:35
To: tlhIngan-Hol
Subject: Re: [Tlhingan-hol] Ha'DIbaH pong chu': la'SIv

loghaD:
> I was conversing with Marc Okrand, recently, and he was kind enough to
> reveal the name of one of my favorite animals:
>
> {la'SIv}
> (or {tera' la'SIv}, when speaking of the Earth variety)
>
> You'll find the translation of this word below, but first an old story:

maj.  'ach {tera' la'SIv} bopbe' lutvam wa'DIch.  {tera' puH la'SIv} boplaw'.

I don't know how "turtle-like" a {la'SIv} is, but in my dialect
(Canadian) of English, a turtle lives in the water.  The land-dwelling
creature featured in the story you related is a "tortoise".

Wikipedia tells me, however, that perhaps American English uses
"turtle" as a catch-all for sea-turtles, tortoises, and terrapins, so
perhaps {la'SIv} is equally broad as well:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turtle#Turtle.2C_tortoise.2C_or_terrapin

(To add to the confusion further, the other character in the story is
a "hare", not a "rabbit".)

> ghItlhta' Hol qonwI''a',
>> Maltz told me about a Klingon animal that's kind of turtle-like called a
>> la'SIv.  So maybe "turtle" is tera' la'SIv.

I would suggest he ask Maltz what the {la'SIv}'s primary habitat is,
on {Qo'noS}, the next time he visits him.

--
De'vID

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