[Tlhingan-hol] nuq bop bom: 'ay' vaghmaH vagh: <taS SuQ>‏

[Felix Malmenbeck]

I agree with what many others have said; I interpret 'op as being simply an unspecified amount, probably excluding zero in many cases (and all in some cases, but far fewer). However, as others have also said, while I'm not comfortable placing it on your progression as somewhere between pagh and bID, I'd probably primarily use it of fairly small numbers, primarily since it'd often be used in qualifying statements to state the condition "if x > 0" (such as Qapchugh 'op nuHmeymaj wej maluj - If some of our weapons work, we have not yet failed).

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From: Steven Boozer [sboozer at uchicago.edu]
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 22:47
To: tlhIngan-Hol at kli.org
Subject: Re: [Tlhingan-hol] nuq bop bom: 'ay' vaghmaH vagh: <taS SuQ>‏

I still see it as part of a simple progression:

none - some - half -  most   - all
pagh - 'op  - bID  - HochHom - Hoch


YMMV.

--
Voragh
Ca'Non Master of the Klingons


> -----Original Message-----
> From: ghunchu'wI' 'utlh [mailto:qunchuy at alcaco.net]
>
> ja' Voragh:
>> It might just be my dialect, but {'op} "some" implies "few" or
>> at least "not many"... I think of {'op} as being the opposite
>> of {HochHom} "most, greater part",...
>
> I too disagree with that understanding. I think {'op} just means an
> unspecified number. It implies a number greater than zero, and I
> wouldn't use it when the number is likely to be all of the population
> being considered, but I don't know that doing so would be wrong.
>
> -- ghunchu'wI'

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