[Tlhingan-hol] 2 letter language code for Klingon?

Seruq seruq at bellsouth.net
Fri Oct 7 04:41:43 PDT 2011


Perhaps there is more than one pIqaD system, like traditional Chinese and simplified Chinese.
Perhaps there is a more sophisticated original pIqaD, which works in a Klingon environment; but
along with learning English in space travel, they also over time developed an alphabet system that
allows them to handle aliens words.  With DIvI' Hol being "alien", Humans saw this newer simplified
pIqaD being used, thought it was the "normal, everyday" pIqaD, and started to use that.
So, it is official, it is not official, and it leaves open a possibility for a full "canon" pIqaD to
came to light.
 
 
DloraH
 
PS:  I can't stand this... I'm forcing this back to plain text.
 
 



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	From: Terrence Donnelly [mailto:terrence.donnelly at sbcglobal.net] 
	Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2011 16:51
	To: tlhingan-hol at stodi.digitalkingdom.org
	Subject: Re: [Tlhingan-hol] 2 letter language code for Klingon?
	
	
	It's dangerous to speculate about what would be "better" for writing any language, but given
ta' Hol's penchant for CVC syllables, something similar to Korean hangul would probably be the most
efficient. But if other dialects of Klingon have different syllable forms, then a simple alphabet
may have proven most flexible over time.
	
	-- ter'eS
	
	--- On Thu, 10/6/11, Josh Badgley <joshbadgley at hotmail.com> wrote:
	

		bIlughbej Mark.  I am very pleased with pIqaD as is.  I have found it incredibly
easy to learn to write, and my reading skills are coming along well.  And I wanted to add a few
thoughts.  First of all, the idea that pIqaD "turn[ing] out to be nothing more than a simple
alphabet" is not so far-fetched.  Perhaps those of us living in Western countries who are accustomed
to the Latin alphabet would find it more "alien" if pIqaD turned out to be an abudiga a la
Devanagari or an even more complex system (like Chinese), but we are not the only humans on the
planet. Perhaps a native speaker of a language written in Devanagari would find it equally "exotic"
and "alien" to have an alphabet such as ours where the letters are not joined together and each
consonant does not have an inherent "a" sound.  What I am saying is that there seems to be no way to
devise a "litmus test" to determine whether or not the pIqaD that is now canon is sufficiently
"alien" enough.  And I would also argue that perhaps Klingons would find such a system much more
straightforward and economical.  Perhaps it would be easier for Klingon children to learn, meaning
that they could spend less time on learning the alphabet and more time learning the art of war.  
		
		
		Just a few thoughts, I probably don't know what I'm talking about, but I think for
now what we have is pretty damn cool.
		
		
		
		-- jhb
		
		
		
		> Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2011 07:23:18 -0400
		> From: mark at kli.org
		> To: tlhingan-hol at stodi.digitalkingdom.org
		> Subject: Re: [Tlhingan-hol] 2 letter language code for Klingon?
		> 
		> On 10/05/2011 09:22 AM, David Trimboli wrote:
		> > I, for one, will be
		> > quite disappointed if it turns out that the poorly understood pIqaD that
		> > handles all the dialects well mentioned in TKD turns out to be nothing more
		> > than a simple alphabet that happens to exactly match the transcription
		> > system introduced in the same book. What a waste!
		> 
		> It might be disappointing, and it would be cooler if it were otherwise, 
		> but it should be noted that if it really be as simple as that, even so 
		> that would be completely feasible as a "real" language. Such things 
		> happen all the time, when spellings get set to a standard dialect.
		> 
		> ~mark
		> 
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