[Tlhingan-hol] FW: EuroTalk - First Impressions

[Josh Badgley]

-- jhb


From: joshbadgley at hotmail.com
To: robyn at flyingstart.ca
Subject: RE: [Tlhingan-hol] EuroTalk - First Impressions
Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2011 09:50:49 -0500








I absolutely love the word for India...brilliant, exactly what I would have chosen.  The others are great too, but as a lover of Indian culture I have to say Dr. Okrand did well.

And yeah the HIzha is jarring as is the gobe, and sometimes it seems like the words are spoken far too quickly...like qa'vIn sounds to me like kahveen!

Still awesome, cant wait to see if my daughter likes it


-- jhb


> Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2011 22:38:00 -0600
> To: tlhIngan-Hol at kli.org
> From: robyn at flyingstart.ca
> Subject: [Tlhingan-hol] EuroTalk - First Impressions
> 
> No word spoilers, just what it's like.
> 
> [I said before I couldn't install it, but then I found a rogue 
> program that had created a file as big as half my hard drive, so 
> deleted that and installed EuroTalk.]
> 
> There are two speakers, a man and a woman. That must be Charlotte and 
> Jonathan. Jonathan's speech is better. You can hear the German 
> accent, but it sounds cool, except when , he defers to his German 
> spelling rules and pronounces a w as a v. Charlotte has trouble with 
> some Klingon sounds. She says gIch for ghIch, baghneH for baghneQ, 
> hImmey for Qimmey and maybe gHo' for ghop. Also I hear nIb for ngIb 
> and lIlwI' for rIlwI'. In the game she says HIzha instead of HIja'. 
> It's possible there is a bit of the McGurk effect going on with the 
> little people that talk. It got so that I didn't want to answer 
> correctly in the game, because I didn't want to hear that HIzha. But 
> I have to hear a gobe' if I got it wrong. You can choose to click on 
> Jonathan for his pronunciation, or they just alternate if you don't. 
> Too bad ''ISqu' didn't do it.
> 
> I started with the body parts section. It has a picture of a person 
> with arrows to all the parts and when you click on them the programme 
> tells you the names.  No new body parts in here.
> 
> * The qanwI' is highlighted, so of course I said qanwI' but they want 
> nItlh. In fact even my non Klingon-speaking husband looked at the 
> initial learning diagram and said "they only have one of the fingers."
> 
> * The pictures are great. You have to identify body parts on a 
> stunningly diverse group of people. I had to stop for a moment to 
> FIND the DeSqIv on one, because his body shape is so unusual.
> 
> And then I click on the colours section. I see red, green light blue, 
> yellow, orange, brown, purple, black, grey, white, pink and 
> blue.  I'm in suspense, actually typing this before clicking on any.
> 
> On one colour, he says: SuD 'ej qugh. She says: SuD 'ej qoH. Heh, 
> reminds me of the character in my bemorngan story. She couldn't say 
> Hurgh either. There's new canon here, *I think* but not new words, 
> more like confirmation of what we would have come up with on our own. 
> Jonathan, why does your green SuD sound like Suj? Ooh, so does 
> Charlotte's. There are people who will walk away from this thinking 
> that green is Suj and yellow is SuD (they both get it right for 
> yellow), and that red is dock and orange is Doq. They both use a 
> short o for the red version. Even my husband heard that one, then 
> said "maj" to praise them when I subsequently clicked on orange.
> 
> Countries are AWESOME, but mine is really hard to say. Two stopped 
> syllables and an unstopped one. Jonathan stops all three and 
> Charlotte does better but stresses the unstopped one. New Zealand is 
> unexpected. The Klingon who named that one didn't speak any DIvI' 
> Hol. I don't hear the middle vowel from either of them for Turkey. 
> Whoa! What is the canon status of words that don't match their 
> spellings on this DVD? Hmm there's a word other than wo' tay' here 
> for the UK. And I think it is an error that the words for the US and 
> UK do not end with the same letter.
> 
> The suspense and anticipation as I hover over something like a 
> picture of a can of coke is so fun. Is it going to be a new word or a 
> description? I was into the foods section, and not disappointed. 
> Although it's sold as "as if Klingons lived on Earth" you can really 
> read it as what a colony of Klingon ex-pats would call this stuff. 
> And then ... I am forced to report, when I clicked on the pear, the 
> program threw an exception and exited. I'll blame my computer.
> 
> This is cool. It was much cheaper than I expected. It's fun. Support 
> your language and buy it! I would definitely buy this product for 
> other target languages, too.
> 
> - Qov
> 
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