I live in a part of my city known as Clifton, and I and my friends have come up with a name for the various people we don't know but we end up seeing frequently in the same places: Cliftonites (or maybe Clifton-ites). {vIl} sounds like the same concept, where the person is a part of the landscape and while you may or may not interact with them, they're not relevant to your goings-on. Is that correct?<br>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 9:26 AM, Steven Boozer <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:sboozer@uchicago.edu" target="_blank">sboozer@uchicago.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div class="im">> Klingon word: vIl<br>
> Part of speech: noun<br>
> Definition: speed bump<br>
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</div> "The noun {vIl} is hard to define. Maltz had given a description of something which was immediately recognized as a speed bump by everyone present, but it was apparently intended not as an actual definition but as an example of something which is 'just there'. There is obviously an etymological relationship with {vIlle'}, which is currently the best clue we have to its true meaning. Consider someone who keeps showing up when you go places. This person doesn't necessarily have any particular importance to what you're doing, and it wouldn't matter to you at all if he or she weren't present, but the person is 'just there'. That would be a {vIl}. It also can describe someone who hangs around, ready to help out, whether or not you need anyone to help you. Again, it wouldn't make any difference to you if the person weren't there. Here is a direct quote from Marc Okrand: "A {vIlle'}, on the other hand, is definitely someone you want to have around--a follower, disciple, fan, admirer, minion." ('Groupie' and 'entourage' were suggested by those present at the time, but Marc didn't think they fit.)" [ghunchu'wI', 7/26/2009]<br>
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"{vIl} strikes me more as referring to someone or something you keep noticing, rather than something or someone you would intentionally look for. When I asked Marc Okrand whether sidekick would be an appropriate term, he said no, and gave this example: "It would apply to this woman I know who seems to show up (as an audience member or an usher or something) at every play I go to. I don't know why she's always there, but it's weird." [ghunchu'wI', 7/27/2009]<br>
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Be careful not to confuse these:<br>
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vIl be ridgy (forehead) (v)<br>
vIlHom ridge (forehead) (n.)<br>
vIlInHoD a bird capable of mimicking speech (n)<br>
vIlle' follower, disciple, fan, admirer, minion (n.)<br>
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Voragh<br>
Ca'Non Master of the Klingons<br>
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