<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div>The thing that bothers me about definitions like "Dominion" is that we're doing in Klingon the same thing we're doing in English. Likely, The Dominion doesn't call itself "The Dominion". It's a proper name we made up, based on a common noun that describes the thing we've named.</div><div><br></div><div>So, when we put in definitions like this, we really need to recognize that {ngup'a'} has two meanings. One is the proper noun and the other is the common noun. It's like {matlh}. It's the verb "be loyal" and it's the proper name Maltz.</div><div><br></div><div>... or maybe Klingon doesn't have a proper name for The Dominion. They are just one of many "major authorities" and when we translate to English, which DOES have a proper noun for this group, we translate it as "The Dominion".</div><div><br></div><div>Bleah.</div><div><br></div><div>
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<br><div><div>On Apr 4, 2012, at 3:26 PM, Steven Boozer wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div>De'vID: <br><blockquote type="cite">I've photographed all the cards and put them online. <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">You should be able to access them at this link:<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/117851035855826465807/KlingonMonopoly?authkey=Gv1sRgCJSd-dThzIbgpAE">https://picasaweb.google.com/117851035855826465807/KlingonMonopoly?authkey=Gv1sRgCJSd-dThzIbgpAE</a> <br></blockquote><br>While working my way through these - De'vID, qatlho'qa'! - I think I've found our first example of the verb {vegh} "go through (an existing opening)" used in an actual sentence:<br><br> bISuvtaHvIS qarDaS bIghHa' peQ botjan Daveghchu'.<br> Fight your way beyond magnetic shield of Cardassian prison. MKE<br><br>Another new word I noticed (has it been mentioned here before?) is {ngup'a'} "Dominion":<br><br> ngup'a' Duj Dajon.<br> Commandeer Dominion vessel. MKE<br><br><br><br>--<br>Voragh<br>Ca'Non Master of the Klingons<br><br><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>Tlhingan-hol mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Tlhingan-hol@stodi.digitalkingdom.org">Tlhingan-hol@stodi.digitalkingdom.org</a><br>http://stodi.digitalkingdom.org/mailman/listinfo/tlhingan-hol<br></div></blockquote></div><br></body></html>